Why must I describe the lyric?

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I don't see a song posted...

Obviously I haven't heard the tune yet, but I know what you're saying. I think that's one of the big reasons for the common problem of vocals being too far back in a mix. The mixer is often the song writer and therefore can easily discern the lyrics. But a listener hearing the song for the first time doesn't have that advantage.

I have the same problem. I think a lot of people do. Bottom line - if you're mixing your own song, turn the vox up higher than you think you need to.

Get busy and post the song. :)
 
Oops. Looks like you posted an album called 'First.' Most people don't do it that way so I didn't notice until after my first post. Sorry. Any song in particular you're talking about?
 
bleonard said:
Whay do I have to tell everyone the lyrics?

Are the lyrics intelligable?

It is hard for me to determine as I already know them :)
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2474&alid=-1

Thnaks
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I can answer you that one (at least from my perspective). If I am critiquing a song for songwriting purposes, it is way too easy for me to get caught up in a good sound which unduely influences my perception of the songwriting (and vice versa). I catch myself countless times digging a song and then on the 10th listen saying "well that really doesn't make sense" or "whew...I sure wouldn't have said it that way" ;) :D. If I can follow along with a lyric sheet, then I can concentrate on the actual songwriting a little better. It's not a bad habit to get into anyway if you want someone to comment on the song itself rather than the production as it is nearly always a requirement for submission to a publisher or for critique in other organizations.

This forum is more about mixing so most peeps don't post lyrics here. There also is a songwriter forum which I visit here as well and there is pretty good place to get more songwriting feedback as well. I have crossposted my one an only fully recorded creation in both for different reasons:eek:. Although, I'm sure if you specified that you wanted folks here to comment on the songwriting side they would gladly (I just am more apt to do that with lyrics available).

Did I answer your question? Was that your question? :)

Oh yeah & pick a song which you want us to listen.
 
Re: Thanks - how about

bleonard said:
Jagular -
Thanks your response provided much insight - the reason I posted was to see if my mix technique was flawed.
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hehe...ok then ;) :D

Three quick things I noticed.

1. First, it sounds like the guitar and vox are right on top of each other in the middle. The guit is competing for space with the vox and drowning it out. I think you need to pan the guit part/parts left and right and leave the vox & bass in the middle.The guit sounds a little bright to me as well. Was it recorded DI?

2. I hear some good qualities in your voice. However, it sounds like you are singing very tentatively. You also are singing out of tune and with inconsistant volumes at points during the song. This could just because you are being tentative.

3. If you have compression available I think it would help your voice in the mix.

It sounds like a pretty good song. I didn't study the lyrics, but I didn't hear anything right off the bat that sounded terrible songwise. I kind of hear a little Dire Straits sound in here.

Was that a little more what you were looking for? :D:D
 
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