Why do my cracked Waves plugins keep crashing in Cubase?

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Now that I've got your attention, could someone PLEASE help me with this problem :D ; I'm desperate and the help menu is confusing the ish out of me! :eek:

Here's my situation:

I'm running Cubase VST 5.1 (ancient, yes, I know) that came with my E-Mu 1820 interface. After recording a bunch of audio tracks, I want to have some real-time control over the basic parameters (track volume, panning, effects on/off, effects parameter changes) during mixdown with a hardware controller. Now I don't own a dedicated midi controller, but I do have a Roland Fantom X6 workstation with midi outs, four assignable knobs and assignable switches (assignable in respect to the Fantom; I guess the "assignability" of these knobs doesn't make much difference when it comes to midi?).

The question is, then, how would I assign these knobs via midi to control the parameters of audio tracks in Cubase? I had tried to do this once with a Korg Microcontroller to no avail and that is supposed to have pre-loaded settings for Cubase!

I'd rather not have to buy a separate midi controller to perform such basic operations...
 
The "cracked" question was a ruse to get someone to pay attention to my REAL question.... Am I outta line with this? :confused:
 
Whoops ... too much coffee and too short an attention span. Let me read your actual question again then. :)
 
Oh right ... there should be a way of doing this but MIDI is not my strongest point so I will butt out and leave you to it. Good luck with finding an answer - I've seen it done in a similar setup to this but I couldn't help you get there.

Nik
 
Thanks for taking the time to read it noisedude. I hope my ruse technique pays off and someone can help!
 
I never used a midi controller with VST so I cant say for sure, but as of SX (and this may still hold true for VST) under the devices, you can add something called a generic remote and load settings from there
 
altitude909 said:
I never used a midi controller with VST so I cant say for sure, but as of SX (and this may still hold true for VST) under the devices, you can add something called a generic remote and load settings from there
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This is true but I dont know how to do it, a VST can be controlled via midi, I know this is true because I have a Mackie Control Universal (midi controller)and Cubase SX3 and I can control most of the parameters in my VST plugs and my Waves bundle plugs.
 
I'm using both Direct X and VST plugins.... Does anyone know if Direct X parameters can be controlled by midi?

The suggestion was made to me that I download software called MidiOX that I guess is a mapping program for midi that shows you what kind of signals are being sent by your controller and where they are going. Does anyone else have experience with this software?

I guess if it ends up being too complicated/impossible to do the things I want with the Fantom I might just end up buying a dedicated midi controller :(
 
Yes you can control Direct X too, but still you have to read up on it, Im sorry that Iam very little help :o
 
Midiox is the best thing since sliced bread and will definetly help to figure out what your keyboard is sending (although it should be assignable for each control) and translate it to something else if needed

The thing about controling plugins in cubase is that the CC (controller numbers) for each are usually fixed by each manufacture. Those numbers will be in each plugins manual. As to why steinberg has not implemented freely assingnable midi control like reason or live! is beyond me.
 
altitude909:

1. The four knobs on the Fantom are assignable and the way that the menu options are layed out looks to me like general midi. Do you think if I just assigned each knob with the parameter I want to control that the Fantom would not just apply that control internally but would also transmit it externally through midi? I tried to answer this question for myself by looking through the Fantom's manual, but when it comes to midi the instruction is either too simplistic and general or just a bunch of tables with midi code and other info I don't understand.

2. About controller numbers: is it Cubase that references controller numbers that are embedded in the plugin software? Would I have to find the controller numbers for each parameter of the plugin in the plugin's manual and then input them somewhere into Cubase? I'm getting confused when it comes to plugins since it seems like there is three parts to take into account: the messages the controller is sending, how Cubase understands those messages and how Cubase applies those messages to the plugin. :confused:
 
1. Hopefully, they also send through the midi out. Sniff the port with midiox and see what CC it is sending, if you cannot figure out how to change it on the keyboard, then use the translate funtion in midiox

2. No, the controller numbers are set by the manufacture cubase will thru cc msgs just like notes from the controller to the plugin. They also have cc asignements in help files. Cubase will see a CC or sysex msg the same as a note on msg
 
yep, just like altitude909 says.
Use MIDI-Ox to monitor your physical input, which than can be transformed and routed to a virtual output (NT-Yoke for example, which is available at the MIDI-Ox site). Just set up the controllers in MIDI-Ox to match what your plugin's CC's are for the parameters you want control over (Refer to your Plugin documentation). Open Cubase and select the instrument track you want to control and set the MIDI input as the virtual port you assigned in MIDI-Ox. MIDI-Ox adds very little in the way of latency if you have a decent system. MIDI-Ox/NT-Yoke are great because you can save different set-ups and load them with a click of a button, without having to close Cubase (Excellent if you work with a lot of external gear or plugins, and only have minimal physical routing/patching options). But watch out for those pesky feedback loops, which are easy to create accidentally when utulizing this much control.

Who needs stinkin' Sliced Bread when you can have MIDI-Ox for free.
 
So this MidiOx looks like the real deal, eh! I went to the website but can't remember: MidiYoke works with Win XP, right? I'll take another look....

I'm gonna try this and report my findings back. Thanks to everyone for their help and for not getting pissed about my ruse technique! :D (the first time I posted this question I got 15 glances and no responses, so I guess it worked)
 
Success! MidiOx showed me that the Fantom was sending the same midi messages as were assigned to the knobs and I finally found the window in Cubase VST (accessible through the devices => generic controller options) that allows you to assign controllers to tracks and track parameters. Now I just have to get a better understanding of how to assign each controller to the specific tracks and parameters I want to control.

Thanks to everyone who helped out with this! :)
 
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