whats it called?????

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i was listening to a taste album and rory takes off doing this, do di do do type thing in harmony with what hes playing on the guitar......

not like robert plant were jimmy would play some diddy and rob would try to recreate it...

a lot of guys do this type thing that rory did but i just wanna know is there a name for it.....
 
Scatting is simply vocally improvising without using words, using your voice like an instrument. It's like the vocal half of what he's talking about.

Scatting doesn't have anything to do with playing the same thing at the same time.
 
I don't know what its called but I've seen John Pizzarelli do it on some PBS special and it was really cool.

When you said "jimmy page played some diddy" I thought you were referring to when Puff Daddy butchered "Kashmir".
 
no im not on about scatting thats kinda of a vocal thing all on its own like notCardio said...

i cant recall ever hearing a george benson...

mabey there is no name for it, its just improv
 
Was it actual harmony with what the guitar was playing, or just octaves? If it's just octaves, then you can call it doubling. If it's harmony, then, well, harmony is what you'd call it.
 
i dont know, its in harmoney but could be done an octave or half an octave above for extra effect, its kinda techinal in its own way, i would'nt think many people would be able to do it to rorys standard, for every note, bend, slide, hammer-on or what ever, its knowing what your gonna play and how it will sound before you play it (thats the easy part) and get it perfect when you sing or imitate the notes over it at exactly the same time, ive seen him do it live on dvd and it simply amazing

i heard jimi hendrix do it once aswell, i think it was hear my train a comin' not sure if it was the acoustic or the electric version
 
George Benson was the first guy I remember having a hit using thit trick. I read in an interview that he'd learned it from watching Wes Montgomery during Wes's small group years.

George was saying that if you practice singing along with every note you play when soloing, eventually your guitar work will follow your voice rather than the other way around. He swore by it as a tool to improve your lead playing.

I don't think it ever got popular enough to have a catchy name.
 
I guess it's ultimately called doubling.

Coincidentally, I bought my copy of "best of Taste" last year while in Ennis.
 
Yea, it sounds like doubling. It's not too difficult to do. Since the same note is being played, you can quickly adjust the pitch of your voice to match. But ultimately, you want to do it Wes' way, with the guitar following your voice.
 
Bump to tthe George Benson reference. I used to practice improvisng in that manner and after a while your voice becomes the guitar line. NB: It will push your creativity because you will realize your limitations. Furthermore, it helps you associate your inner/outer voice with the fretboard. PS, in a band setting it is usually loud enough that your vocalizations will not be heard unless you want them to be heard. One last thing, you may want to forewarn your mates of your intentions so that, one, they don't think you have lost your mind, second, they won't keep stopping the tune in the belief that you are trying to say something. :eek: Sorry for the typos. Sick today and at work.
 
IronFlippy said:
Yea, it sounds like doubling. It's not too difficult to do. Since the same note is being played, you can quickly adjust the pitch of your voice to match. But ultimately, you want to do it Wes' way, with the guitar following your voice.
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Hey, I'd be thrilled if I could do anything Wes' way.

But it ain't gonna happen. :(
 
When it's a vocalist & instrumentalists doing it really well & in unison it's called bloody good.
Ella Fitzgerald did it really well, Van the man could get away with it but preferred to stay away from the soloists unision.
Benson was ultra popular with his smooth blend of it.
 
Thurgood said:
Bump to tthe George Benson reference.
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No doubt. That guy is one badass guitar player. I used to pick on him when "Breezin" came out, but a teacher turned me on to his earlier stuff.
 
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