whatchoo think of this.. debate away

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my friend and i are nerds.. me a little bit in the music area of computers and he WAY bigger than I in the network/raw construction and real inner workings of a PC.. this is what we were talking about......

jeremy the really high paid computer/network tech--use a PC with onboard CF slot (compact flash memory card, the same kind of card digital cameras use) for the storage of data files. Seek time basically becomes a non issue, but has limited storage space (<1GB). W

i, matt, say that would be amazing if the entire project was under the allocated 1GB size especially if that's all would ever need to be added to the project.. with a good processor, a CF slot, and/or hard drive to start the intial tracking, we think it could be powerful step.

example.. transfer the audio to the flash card(off of the HD only for pre-mixing stage when you want fast audio and instant plugins as well as quicker punches without as many latency issues..

i've yet to fully explain the process of recording... tracking drums, bass, scratch instruments, etc... but he gets the idea..


please tell us what's wrong with this and we'll try to amend.......

matt
 
SilentSound said:
my friend and i are nerds.. me a little bit in the music area of computers and he WAY bigger than I in the network/raw construction and real inner workings of a PC.. this is what we were talking about......

jeremy the really high paid computer/network tech--use a PC with onboard CF slot (compact flash memory card, the same kind of card digital cameras use) for the storage of data files. Seek time basically becomes a non issue, but has limited storage space (<1GB). W

i, matt, say that would be amazing if the entire project was under the allocated 1GB size especially if that's all would ever need to be added to the project.. with a good processor, a CF slot, and/or hard drive to start the intial tracking, we think it could be powerful step.

example.. transfer the audio to the flash card(off of the HD only for pre-mixing stage when you want fast audio and instant plugins as well as quicker punches without as many latency issues..

i've yet to fully explain the process of recording... tracking drums, bass, scratch instruments, etc... but he gets the idea..


please tell us what's wrong with this and we'll try to amend.......

matt
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The media on which you store the audio will make no difference as far as reducing latency. Latency is basically the time a PC's CPU takes to process audio data and then spit it back out thru is DAC's...
 
keep it coming...

ok.. then this is what i wanted.. we were both excited and taken back by are big discussion...


what will a seek time value that is EXTREMELY low do for the mixing/effecting of audio?

i'm sure the projects will open up quckly, playback instantaneously, and more tracks and plug ins would be possible than before at better speeds than before.. someone tell me this is the dumbest idea ever, PLEASE

the guy jeremy who i'm working with can work with companies to try to develop different versions of this product to suit our needs.. keep the posts coming!!!!!!!

matt
 
The new Radar system uses flash up to 300GB. Of course the flash "drives" are many many thousands of dollars.

Hard drive performance isn't really a big issue right now. A low seek time would do very little. It would speed up the building of peak files, which isn't really that big of a deal. It would speed up copying files and such as well, but not if you were copying them to/from a regular hard drive. It would require much less if any defragmenting, but defragging is only required once or twice a year ('cept for those over-hyped defrag nerds, hehe). Buffering would be faster, and seeking around in a project would be much snappier.

As it is now, the processing of an audio file takes much longer than the reading of an audio file. You can speed the drive up 1000% and you're not going to speed up your DSP. You're also not going to speed up the rate at which the music is listened to.

As it stands, a single 7200RPM IDE drive is more than capable of 32 tracks at 24bit 96khz (requires ~9MB/s sustained). It's the rest of the system that'll conk out before the drive.

I don't think it would be worth the cost...unless the price of flash drops by a considerable amount.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Actually, in my opinion the greatest benefit from a flash device is that it's silent (unless it needs cooling) and that it should be much more robust and safer than a standard hard drive. Those benefits would far outweigh the nominal gains in performance.

Slackmaster 2000
 
silence was another thing we brought up.. we're going to try to test some things out just for the hell of it.. i'll post something when we do..
 
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