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jrhager84
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Just curious as to what brands are nice to use. My goal is to get good DKFH sounds from my kit, so the room sound won't be an issue anymore. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Just curious as to what brands are nice to use. My goal is to get good DKFH sounds from my kit, so the room sound won't be an issue anymore. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
You are confusing the controller with the actual triggers. The triggers are the things that are attached to the drums.Just to give you another alternative, You might be able to convert the playing to midi notes within your recording program with the right plugins. Which is basically what expensive triggers do in the first place, isn't it? Of course for this to work best, the drums should be recorded onto seperate tracks.
Drumagog will convert audio (the signal from the triggers) to midi.DKFH - Drum kit from hell plugin. I meant using the awesome sounds of that plugin with my actual inconsistent human playing. I could program all of my drum parts, but I wouldn't be too happy about that, ya know?
I too was also thinking of just using some plugin to convert to midi, but I don't even know where to start with looking at something like that. Any ideas?
I don't care how I get there, but I want DKFH sounds on my kit (just in a recording environment). So if I can just mic my drums and convert later, that is fine with me. Thanks guys!
You are confusing the controller with the actual triggers. The triggers are the things that are attached to the drums.
You can plug the output from a trigger directly into a pre and have drumagog convert that to midi?With a program like Drumagog, you can mic the kit with mics, then use Drumagog to convert the audio to midi to use with dkfh. You can also just trigger the Drumagog samples.
The only thing that the triggers do for you is keep the bleed of other drums and cymbals from triggering your sounds.
Triggers are used in place of microphones.
Yes. I do it all the time. You can plug a mic into a drum brain (with the right cable) and use that to trigger the sounds.You can plug the output from a trigger directly into a pre and have drumagog convert that to midi?
Wow. That's cool. That's something I have not thought of.Yes. I do it all the time. You can plug a mic into a drum brain (with the right cable) and use that to trigger the sounds.
A trigger is just a transducer, as is a mic. It's advantage is that it only picks up the sound of the drumhead that it is touching. No bleed.
The guts of a trigger are the same as the guts of an acoustic guitar pickup, (the ones under the saddle) and we plug those into mic preamps all the time.
I am not confusing anything, I have used triggers before.You are confusing the controller with the actual triggers. The triggers are the things that are attached to the drums.
Let's get real here though. Think about the tools you've got: You can use your mics, bleed or no bleed.. It doesn't technically matter how the hits sound (aside from the overheads, I would recommend keeping those live and only replacing the kick, snare and perhaps toms) so really you could use methods you normally wouldn't use to mic each drum for maximum prevention of bleed.. As farview said a trigger operates on the same principles, so logic suggests you don't need to bother going out and buying any.
Yeah, Drumagog converts to MIDI, so do many other plugins. Figure out which one works best for you. Normally Drumagog is used to replace crap drums with better sounding samples which are loaded directly into the Drumagog plugin. What you want is different, you want to convert each drum audio track to a MIDI track that preserves the performance right down to the dynamics, and you can later add the DFH plugin to them. So maybe DG will do that for you no problem, but chances are you can find something else that will do it for free.
The best way to add DFH to the resulting MIDI, while paying attention to resources, is get each drum converted on their own tracks first, then paste all the midi notes into one midi track, then apply the DFH to that midi track only. Otherwise you would have several instances of DFH eating up 100's of MB each.