What is the best method to map out midi's for creating realistic drums...?

[dreamache]

Is it manually plotting the notes with a midi editor?

Is it by using a music keyboard?

Are there other BETTER avenues?


I'm interested in the best method. Thanks.

 

[thane1200]

What drum module(s) are you using? How are you currently accessing the sounds? A keyboard and plotter will both allow you to program drums. A little more information on what you are trying to accomplish will help us help you better.

~Nick

 

[dreamache]

What drum module(s) are you using? How are you currently accessing the sounds? A keyboard and plotter will both allow you to program drums. A little more information on what you are trying to accomplish will help us help you better.

~Nick

hey..

well, I'm using cakewalk sonar 5 producer, and I'm waiting for drumkit from hell superior to arrive. I also just got Battery 2.

I've just spent a lot of time researching the forums and although I've learned more, I'm still not quite certain what the *best* bet would be.

I know creating realistic drums (not techno stuff, but REAL drums, which is my goal) will not be easy regardless of what avenue I choose, because I'm not willing to buy an entire digital drumkit.

so it looks like I have 3 options:


1. Use the Sonar Piano-Roll to manually plot points for each sample...
-- This seems like it'd be most difficult.

2. Use a music keyboard.
-- This seems like it might be a BIT easier than option 1, but the down side seems as though I definitely wouldn't be able to emulate a full drum set at ONCE. I assume I'd have to have one take which would be the bass drum and snare.. .then another take for highhat and any cymbals, and another for tom fills... sounds like it'd get quite complex / confusing.

3. Use a digital drum pad.
-- This seems like it'd be a BIT easier than option 2 due to actual large pads... but the same problem in #2 seems like it'd apply here.


A part of me says #1 is the best option, I'd just have to learn how to get really good at it.

Comments?

 

[reshp1]

hey..

well, I'm using cakewalk sonar 5 producer, and I'm waiting for drumkit from hell superior to arrive. I also just got Battery 2.

I've just spent a lot of time researching the forums and although I've learned more, I'm still not quite certain what the *best* bet would be.

I know creating realistic drums (not techno stuff, but REAL drums, which is my goal) will not be easy regardless of what avenue I choose, because I'm not willing to buy an entire digital drumkit.

so it looks like I have 3 options:


1. Use the Sonar Piano-Roll to manually plot points for each sample...
-- This seems like it'd be most difficult.

2. Use a music keyboard.
-- This seems like it might be a BIT easier than option 1, but the down side seems as though I definitely wouldn't be able to emulate a full drum set at ONCE. I assume I'd have to have one take which would be the bass drum and snare.. .then another take for highhat and any cymbals, and another for tom fills... sounds like it'd get quite complex / confusing.

3. Use a digital drum pad.
-- This seems like it'd be a BIT easier than option 2 due to actual large pads... but the same problem in #2 seems like it'd apply here.


A part of me says #1 is the best option, I'd just have to learn how to get really good at it.

Comments?

Yamaha DD55.
I'm in no way affiliated with this seller, but amsbestbuy on ebay sells refurbished ones for much less than you'd find anywhere except used. Mine was seriously LIKE NEW. It's not a real set, but it's not a toy either.
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-DD-55-PR...298779QQcategoryZ1287QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

 

[altitude909]

Akai MPD16 is the same price and probably the best way to go (provided you are a decent drummer)

 

[dreamache]

Yamaha DD55.
I'm in no way affiliated with this seller, but amsbestbuy on ebay sells refurbished ones for much less than you'd find anywhere except used. Mine was seriously LIKE NEW. It's not a real set, but it's not a toy either.
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-DD-55-PR...298779QQcategoryZ1287QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

hmmmm.. you know what...

I'm REALLY considering buying an electronic set now... I think I'd have around a $1500 - $2000 budget. I assume this would be the BEST alternative? (I can't get a real set cause that'd be too loud).

If it would be the best alternative, I'd appreciate it if you could link me to some electronic drumkits that would be most suitable for my budget.

Thanks!

 

[reshp1]

hmmmm.. you know what...

I'm REALLY considering buying an electronic set now... I think I'd have around a $1500 - $2000 budget. I assume this would be the BEST alternative? (I can't get a real set cause that'd be too loud).

If it would be the best alternative, I'd appreciate it if you could link me to some electronic drumkits that would be most suitable for my budget.

Thanks!

Probably look or post in the Drums and Percussion forum. I think I saw an E-Kit thread in there today. I'm just a guitar player that likes to pretend I play drums . Actually, I was thinking of getting an e-Kit a while ago too. The Hart Dynamics prodigy kit's looked good on paper, but I couldn't ever find a place where I could try it out. Good luck on your search.

 

[altitude909]

or there are midi triggers for real kits also

 

[dreamache]

or there are midi triggers for real kits also

well getting a real drumkit is out of the question, too loud. can't have loud shit here.

 

[Dogman]

You might have changed what you want to do, but to help with the original question, I use DFHS, and Sonar 5. I have only had this setup for a little over a month, but have done a few drum tracks that sound pretty good, and I onlu use piano roll, and my mouse. I can't drum at all, but it lets me get sounds that are much better than a machine. It can be a bit tedious at times, but really only takes a few hours to come up with something decent, and then you can continue to expand if you wish. Just my input.
Ed