What is meant by 'gated' reverb ?

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originally a gated reverb was made by putting a noise gate after a reverb. Ala phil collins drums. The reverb gets a chance to decay then gets gated off and dissapears. This can make explosions and cannon fire out of even the whimpiest snare and toms

Later on some people figured out that by putting the reverb thru the noisegate BUT putting the send of the reverb split off into the key or sidechain input of the gate, WAY better results could be attained( ok way different, but usually better). This killed off " gate chatter" and false triggerring by certain types of reverb sounds and allowed RADICAL crazy reverb envelopes to be gated

now there is even a different take, drawing the envelope on the reverb itself, and you can pull this off in apps like SIR and Accoustic Mirror. This isnt true gating but can have a similar result, with the interesting twist that the gating action isnt related to the input signal itself but rather to the reverb envelope itself!
 
You really get in to that stuff, don't you Pipeline ? :D

Don't blame you. It's very cool.

One of my favorite examples of the gated verb is Phil's playing on Frida's "There's something going on."
 
that was him???

now it all makes sense!

Ive been listening to that song a LOT lately, from that thread where Ive been trying to figure out " those stinging vocals" and that song ceartainly had them
 
He produced the entire album, as well, from what I gather.
 
pipelineaudio said:
originally a gated reverb was made by putting a noise gate after a reverb. Ala phil collins drums. The reverb gets a chance to decay then gets gated off and dissapears. This can make explosions and cannon fire out of even the whimpiest snare and toms

Later on some people figured out that by putting the reverb thru the noisegate BUT putting the send of the reverb split off into the key or sidechain input of the gate, WAY better results could be attained( ok way different, but usually better). This killed off " gate chatter" and false triggerring by certain types of reverb sounds and allowed RADICAL crazy reverb envelopes to be gated

now there is even a different take, drawing the envelope on the reverb itself, and you can pull this off in apps like SIR and Accoustic Mirror. This isnt true gating but can have a similar result, with the interesting twist that the gating action isnt related to the input signal itself but rather to the reverb envelope itself!
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pipeline,
I'm very interested but very confused.
In the first case you described you put an aux send on the drum track, send that to reverb, and put a gate on the reverb return. Am I correct on that?

In the second case, I'm understanding that you do the same thing but you set up a side chain to trigger the gate. If I'm correct so far, what exactly are you using to trigger the gate?

Also, when using gated reverb, is it typical to gate the drum track itself before sending it to the reverb?

Thanks in advance!
 
I imagine you would want to gate the snare track itself before putting on gated reverb. You certainly don't want that reverb on a high hat that might have bled through onto your snare!
 
fprod, first case, exactly like you said

second case, the chain looks like this:

console aux send gets split into a " Y" somehow, either electronically or physically. One side of the " Y " goes to the sidechain input of the noisegate. The other side of the "Y" goes to the reverb input. The output of the revern goes to the AUDIO input of the noisegate. Now the gating action is controlled directly by the send itself and not by the reverb tail itself, which if " sparkly " enough could have caused gate chatter and other problems

and for the last question, its just like Chibi said
 
Got it! Tried it on a snare drum track and it sounds great. Now I just gotta learn to use it in context.

Thanks!
 
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