What I Want

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good time music. I like this one MMM good. The vocals could be louder for me, I couldnt understand all of the words. It's got that bouncy feel of yours, really up stuff. :)
 
well... you're no "Steve McQueen"...

...but you've got a catchy thing here.

"I wanna screw you over..." heh... "I want Area 51 explained"... heh...

"Heh" in general :)

You obviously cogitate over the prose quite a bit; if only we could get your tracks scrubbed up nice...

One o these days, 3M you'll receive a shiny set of .wav files that, when opened, will play back the pristeen drum tracks your songs need :)

If that's ok by you... but it's another in a line of things I gotta do :o

5 for lyrical content


-C
 
Great song

I think the tone on the guitar and vocals is kinda holding it back, especially the fuzzier of the two guitars. I bet it would sound bitchin' with just the clean(er) guitar.
 
"screw you over fair and square".....oh my god that is fucking brilliant!!!....

the whole mix sounds lo-fi-ish to me...but your voice comes through ALOT better on this one...very cool jumpy song...
yeah you NEED drums that bump along with this.....what do you use now?? right before the break at 2:00 the drum fill is off....


man i have to listen to your songs a few times to fully appreciate the lyrical content so this is round one.....so far so good!!!



jamal
 
Hey 3m,

I've not the best ears on the block but, I hear muddy, muddy MUDDY!

I would suggest vox up git this drums that but, I think the best thing to do would be a faders down remix/retry. It could be the mp3 conversion but, I know I've heard your sweet songs clearer.

Is it overcompressed on a mastering level? I just hear alot of squishy mud that is fucking up my enjoyment of a great tune.

I liked what I heard after I got used to the mix and hope you can breath some life back into the mix.


Was that too harsh?:o I really dig this tune and you've a talent for lyrically flowing pop songs that I find myself envying and liking alot so, I care about this mix. My bad that I'm too ignorant to fix it:rolleyes: :D

Firm tune dude,

Theron.:) :)
 
I really like the tune.It has a good pop hook to it.......nice lyrics as always with your stuff.......this has some major pop hook elements to it...nice break down around the 2 minute mark.

I'll have to echo Jamals comment on the Low-fi sound.The whole mix could use a little bit of shine to make it breathe.It;s kinda muffled.This song is too good to settle for a dull mix.See if you can get some highs on the whole mix without creating any harshnes.

Good tune T-mmm.
 
nice, very well done. I like this song alot. Does sound a little muddy on lowfi.

dtb
 
brilliant writing. i'd say even more brilliant that usual. i like this one better than the others that you've posted for some reason. and your guitar playing is tightening up too!

still lo fi though. i have the same fidelity complaints as i usually do with your stuff.

as soon as my new studio space is ready, you're coming over to re-track this.
 
Song construction and lyrics ....... A+. You've obviously put some time into your lyrics. This song is chock full of some great lines. I like songs that don't repeat a verse just to fill out their 3 1/2 minutes.

Mix ..... C-. As already mentioned - missing fidelity. The bg vocals sound like their really well done, but the lo-fi kills it.

What did you record this on? May be a case of "doing the best with what you've got to work with".

BPOCO
 
Hey Trip,
Nice tune man. The vocs and melody in this remind me a little of one of Macles tunes. That is definitely a compliment. GREAT lyrics man!!! Youve heard enough about the low-fi quality of the mix, so i wont go there. Great Pop bro...... a fun listen fer sure.
g
 
Thanks everyone.

auburncatfish - yeah I like them a bit, although I wouldn't call myself a huge fan. I didn't think this sounded like the Ramones, but anyway thank you for listening.

Toki987 - what's with that moniker? :D. Vocal levels are always tough especially when you know them yourself (they're so much easier to hear).

participant - thanks for the terrific feedback (as is usual with you). The drums are done with drumagog (per your suggestion last time). Actually the drums got whacked a bit in the MP3 conversion. They sound much better in the .wav. Any suggestions on good MP3 converters? There were other issues with the conversion as well. If you want to do some drums please go ahead. Again - great feedback.

Doug - thanks for the listen. Hmmm clean rhythm guit? I toyed around with that thought but didn't want put in the extra effort. I'm a rather lazy person. I do wonder what it would sound like.

Jamal - it's a struggle to come up with lines that haven't already been written a thousand times before. But it sure feels good when you do. I wonder if you feel the same way given that you come up with first class stuff. The lo-fi is I think a combination of things (see below).

theron - Is "boomy" perhaps a better word than "muddy?" I paid a bit of attention to not getting a muddy sound. I certainly focused on the low end this time more than other times. Yeah I compressed the low end quite a bit. I was trying to get a loud mix. I know people frown upon that here, but I wanted to see if I could do it. It's harder than it sounds. And no you weren't too harsh.

Kramer - thanks for the props on songwriting. I'm working on the fidelity.

dtb - as with theron maybe "boomy" Thank you for the listen.

eric - thanks for the compliments. Here's what I think the lo-fi thing is... I think it's a combination of things. I still used the SoundBlaster PCI 64 on this one. I took your advice and bought a Delta 44 on Ebay. I have it working but that was after I tracked this one. We'll see what the next one sounds like. Another thing is I perhaps over-Ozoned it. Some of the muffled sound comes from the Stereo separator (believe it or not). It's a cool effect, but it introduced a "muffledness" to the mix. I could get that back out, but I liked the effect. Maybe a bad choice. I'm listening to the MP3 and the WAV file back to back and there's a very noticable difference. I may need a better converter. But I'll telly ya, if you compare this one with Steve McQueen, you'll hear a definite improvement I think.

bpoco - Thank you for the songwriting compliments. I'm used a Mackie 1202 vlz mixer (and it's preamps) and (as stated above) a SoundBlaster. We'll see how the Delta sounds next time.

G-man - thank you as well for the songwriting stuff. I keep Monkeyfeet around as a yardstick to measure my mixes.
 
A rookies input....

In that tune your selling the vocals.
Nothing , including the lo-fi issue or gutar tone will change the response you get from that song to the "average listener" as much as improving the vocal clarity.

Sell sell sell those vocals. That tune has $$$$$$$$ written all over it.

I tried to balance my vocals by asking friends who haven 't heard the tune to give me back verses or chorus lines. Then I was forced top bring up the level.

Joe
 
Hey Trip:

I like your songs because you think about them, and it's obvious. Hehehe...Disney.

Hey man, I'm gonna' add a little to what Smokey the Pole said... I do a similar thing, only I make my 12 year old daughter listen to a tune and repeat every word (except on the "Fuck You" song, lol). I add volume somewhere or pull it back until she can get about 95% of them.

Also, (and it pains me to say this), but I'm thinking you've actually gone BACKWARDS on the sound. I've heard others from you that were a lot bigger and cleaner. I'll say this, though...the soundcard will help more than I ever would have realized. It may not be evident in my recordings, lol, but when I started using a new card, everything just got easier. You don't notice it so much when you start tracking...but when you start mixing...you'll just notice that everythings sounds better.

Okay, most importantly, I like the song as much as I like using Depeche Mode in a sentence.
 
Interested to hear what happens with the new soundcard.

Personally I have had zero luck with Ozone. It seems to degrade my quality everytime I use it. The stereo separator is a pretty cool effect, especially since you can band it. I mean the plugin looks cool and has a lot of bells and whistles but I just noticed that it was killing my fidelity for some reason. Probably me.

I still suspect the sound upgrade will help a lot.

What are you using to convert to mp3 btw?

My favorite line is the one about the fire engine. I don't know why but I really like that line.
 
G-man - oh stop yourself. It's a great song (and I don't even like funk).

Smokepole - gotta say I smile every time I see your moniker. Thanks for the songwriting comments. I could bump up the vox a bit. Some people seem to be hearing them, but not everyone. I could also pull the guits back a bit. I did some of that last night, but maybe just a bit short of enough.

chrisharris - thanks for the honesty. But give Steve McQueen another listen back to back with this one. I remembered one piece of advice you gave me last time in that my stuff doesn't have enough energy at the low end. I paid a lot of attention to that this time. I think it has more. I think my problems come from several sources, and I'm trying to work on them all. One is I think I over-Ozoned this one. I suppose I could take out the stereo imaging and do nothig else and you'd notice more clarity in the midrange. As I said, I noticed it when I applied the effect, but decided the effect was the better choice. Could be a mistake. Hey - on the Depeche Mode in a sentence.... No way. Doesn't count. You used it in a WAY too contrived manner. :)

eric - like I said above, I could take out some of the Ozone stuff and probably clear a bunch of sound up. I like a bunch of stuff about Ozone, but knowing when to stop is not always apparant. The stereo imager is a cool effect, but it makes it sound like you're singing through an oak door. BTW - I use Cakewalk's Pyro as an MP3 converter. Got a better choice? I've never noticed it to be a problem before, but listening to the .WAV and .MP3 back to back I could notice a somewhat large difference. It'd be really cool to meet you in person and swap tips. For those of you who are thinking we're getting ready to go pick out china together - eric and I live no more than 20 minutes apart or so. We just haven't gotten around to meeting in person. Oh yeah, the fire truck? That was a throwaway line (or at least I thought so) to set up the rhyme with Donald Duck. Go figure...

OK. Next time I use the Delta (obviously), watch the low end, ditch the stereo stuff if it's muffled, and make sure my wife and kids can recite most of the words (good idea BTW Chris).
 
TripleM said:
BTW - I use Cakewalk's Pyro as an MP3 converter. Got a better choice? I've never noticed it to be a problem before, but listening to the .WAV and .MP3 back to back I could notice a somewhat large difference
Click to expand...

www.dbpoweramp.com

Right-click on a wav file to convert to mp3...
Uses the LAME encoder engine
Very easy & good quality
 
Gosh dang participant. You know absolutely everything.

I downloaded this and tried it out at work on an earlier version of the wav file. I know I should be working, but fut the wuck.

Ok it didn't turn the thing into gold, but it was noticably better than Pyro. And it's free.

I was going to drop this song, but maybe I'll "un-Ozone" it a little bit and re-encode it. I'll try to get another copy up by this weekend.

participant - I owe you so much that I don't think I'll ever adequately repay you. I owe a lot of people on this board. Thanks a million.
 
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