What do you use for individual drum sounds for your beats: samplers/romplers?

[anppilot]

I'm curious what do you guys use to do your drums. Everyone has their own thing they do.

I personally have a DAW that is dedicated to Gigastudio 32. 15 (tracks 1-15)tracks/channels have a sample mapped to each note on a 61 note master controller. That is 915 samples. That is my default performance.

I leave track 16 open for any additional samples I might want to load in. I am in the painstaiking process of sampling all of the drums samples (each sound) from my Motif Rack ES, Triton, Fantom XR Rack, JV-1080 internal drum wavs + all of the drum samples from the dance card, hiphop card, house and techno card, Ensoniq MR-Rack, and my Alesis DM-PRO

When I'm done, It'll be one hell of a Drum Library.

And then just use all of those samples in my Giga DAW.

I just dont like to mess with drums directly on romplers.

I take the outs of my synths to the input of my DAW, use wavelab in record mode & sample each sound. Oh brother this is taking a long time, but will be worth it.

I'm also wondering the legalities of selling them. How do kid nepro, east west and others sell what they call "motif drums" or "fantom drums"?

I'm just using these synths as examples only.

Do I need to add some effect or change the pitch of them to make them different so I can sell them so the manufactured cant bitch that I'm selling their stuff? Can anyone help me on this one?

Cause my friends are wanting a copy of my .wavs of all of my samples. They know I have alot of hours into this project and they want a piece of it.

 

[batchmister1]

I agree "I just dont like to mess with drums directly on romplers. "

For Kick drums I mainly sample breaks, instrumental tracks, or use samples that I have spliced together. I use Sound Forge splice together samples and to add noise.

I am extremely picky about my drums. I have found it very difficult to find usable kick samples unless I sample them directly from a record.

My snares are sampled from records, or spliced together samples.

I almsot never use romplers for drum sounds, mainly because I have too many sounds as is and I do not like the quality, same goes for synths.

I use both Native Instruments Battery 2 & 3 (they sound different). Like I said I am picky. Kicks come alive in Battery 3, but Battery 3 may distort a sound, causing me to use Batery 2.

For analog drums (fills and kicks) I use my Nord Lead 3 rack.

Yes, you would have to make the sounds different for you to sell them.

 

[altitude909]

I'm also wondering the legalities of selling them. How do kid nepro, east west and others sell what they call "motif drums" or "fantom drums"?

100% Copyright infringement and they will come after you. Any PCM Sample is copyrighted by the company and reproducing it in a library of samples is the same as sampling a song and selling it as your own. Companies who sell sample kits do so by buying a license. You cannot even call it "fantom drums" without a license since the name is trademarked.

Roland just went after D16 (the VSTi maker) since their 808 VST looked too much like the real 808 despite they never mentioned 808 anywhere and the real TR-808 has not been produced in almost 25 years

http://d16.pl/

They only way to do it legally would be to sample a analog drum machine (or something that synthesizes the sound instead of playing back a sample from ROM) and call it "analog drums" without specifying the actual machine it came from

 

[anppilot]

GOTCHA !

Thanks.