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godson
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I am basically asking what you experts think are the best monitors out for hip hop/r&b music. Which ones do you all use? I am not happy with mine.
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godson
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I am currently looking at the mackie 624
LAZI
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Make sure whatever you choose has at least 6 inch woofers. Best to get 8 inches or maybe even add a subwoofer when doing hiphop type shit. One thing about hiphop is good bassed out bangin shit.
I use Alesis Monitor Ones and the RA100 power amp with a Sony 12 inch sub home audio sub. I turn the sub of when doing any final mixes to insure I don't turn the bass down to low but I need the sub to insure that it is there and full.
Mackies are the shit from what I've heard but I've never had to mix on em. They sound like they'd be a bitch to mix on coming from any different setup.
Whatever monitors you pick it's important to remember that you must learn your monitors (takes some time). I know my monitors cover up some of the highs so when I mix I know I need to adjust the high end a certain way for the mix to be right. Learning what you hear during the mix and how it will sounds on other systems is the best way to get a good mix regardless of what monitors you may choose. Peace to ya.
I use Alesis Monitor Ones and the RA100 power amp with a Sony 12 inch sub home audio sub. I turn the sub of when doing any final mixes to insure I don't turn the bass down to low but I need the sub to insure that it is there and full.
Mackies are the shit from what I've heard but I've never had to mix on em. They sound like they'd be a bitch to mix on coming from any different setup.
Whatever monitors you pick it's important to remember that you must learn your monitors (takes some time). I know my monitors cover up some of the highs so when I mix I know I need to adjust the high end a certain way for the mix to be right. Learning what you hear during the mix and how it will sounds on other systems is the best way to get a good mix regardless of what monitors you may choose. Peace to ya.
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gec
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barefoot
barefootsound.com
Mine! 
Seriously, it's true.
But whatever you get, you do need high quality. And you need a good set of well integrated subs. Hip hop is probably some of the most demanding music there is from a monitoring perspective. It uses a lot of electronic sounds that can go thunderously deep, super high, and make very sharp attacks - all are very difficult for speakers to reproduce accurately. Hip hop is also very vocal intensive. And the voice, for obvious reasons, is the instrument that the human ear is most keenly sensitive to. So you're asking you're monitors to give you an accurate representation of the absolute most difficult things they can do.
Buy the best monitoring system you can afford. Also, go over to the Studio Building and Display forum and learn all you can about good control room acoustics. This is as important as good monitors (even for nearfields, despite what any marketing rep might say).
barefoot
http://barefootsound.com
Seriously, it's true.
But whatever you get, you do need high quality. And you need a good set of well integrated subs. Hip hop is probably some of the most demanding music there is from a monitoring perspective. It uses a lot of electronic sounds that can go thunderously deep, super high, and make very sharp attacks - all are very difficult for speakers to reproduce accurately. Hip hop is also very vocal intensive. And the voice, for obvious reasons, is the instrument that the human ear is most keenly sensitive to. So you're asking you're monitors to give you an accurate representation of the absolute most difficult things they can do.
Buy the best monitoring system you can afford. Also, go over to the Studio Building and Display forum and learn all you can about good control room acoustics. This is as important as good monitors (even for nearfields, despite what any marketing rep might say).
barefoot
http://barefootsound.com
Beathoven
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Barefoot,
You make studio monitors? Or just loudspeaker for the audiophiles?
Can you tell me the price range of your products? Would you export to Canada?
Peace,
Beathoven
You make studio monitors? Or just loudspeaker for the audiophiles?
Can you tell me the price range of your products? Would you export to Canada?
Peace,
Beathoven
SPINSTERWUN
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godson, what is your budget for new monitors?
SPINSTERWUN
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anti alias
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I got some Fostex PM 1's. They work good enough for me
barefoot
barefootsound.com
Beathoven,Beathoven said:
I do both, and I make very little distinction between the two. Most of the "audiophile" speakers I've sold were first designed as studio monitors. If you look on my web site you'll see a pair of cylindrical cabinet, dual woofer speakers. http://barefootsound.com The first ones were designed as mastering monitors for a friend's classical music recording company (he has a lot of releases out on "modern classical" labels like Nonesuch, New Albion, and Elan). The rosewood versions you see there were built for a hip little jazz cafe. The single woofer speakers were first built as 'large format nearfields'. The versions in the picture were for an art gallery. I'm still working on my web site, so more pics are on the way.
Price really depends on what you want. Everything I build is customized to the application. And I only build high-end gear because... well, first of all it's impossible for an individual to compete with cheap products mass produced in the far east. Secondly, I'm just not interested in the low end. I want to spend my time pushing the performance envelope. That's where the fun is!
So, depending on you're application, a pair of passive two-way monitors might be in the $1200 range. An ultra high performance, bone crushing, tri-amplified main monitor system with 24bit/96kHz double precision signal processing and dual high linearity subs that reach down to 20Hz? - around $8000.
So, you see it can vary quite a bit. Still, my systems are quite a bargain because right now I'm working for a huge computer chip company developing laser/acoustic measurement systems and speakers are no longer my full time gig. The past few years I've just kept the business simmering very low on the side. Hopefully I can manage to change that soon, because I'm really getting tired of the corporate scene.
Anyhow, Canada is no problem. But, I thought you were in DC?
barefoot
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godson
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I'll probably be willing to spend between 600 and 1000, but that is not as important seeing american musical has the payment plans.
Flo' Dolo
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godson,
From my limited experience I can tell you the 624s are great, except for 2 things:
1) they will deplete your thousand dollars to the penny
2) you will definately want the Mackie sub at some point in the near future if you really want to check the rumble factor in your tracks.
I wanted them, but opted out this go round cuz I wasn't willing to spring for the sub (not to mention the drama of proper sub placement in a control room).
Spin's Event 20/20bas jammies are cool indeed and will run you about 800 a pair.
Check into Hafler power amps and monitors - the ain't bad, and they ain't expensive, either. In fact, if you get a Hafler setup, you'll have enough dough left to get a so-so amp and set of big ol' clubby speakers when you wanna see how your shit'll sound in the club (or the sub).
I listened to heaps of monitors before I settled on a pair of Event 20/20bas' and Mackie 824s. And yes, if I only need 1 set I would've bought something different and been out of an additional hundred ben franklins or so, but that's another story.
Oh, I see lots of music chains running special on Hafler amps and KRK monitors. I don't know much about them, but you should check 'em out, too. A few people on the BBS swear by 'em.
Good Luck,
Flo' Dolo
From my limited experience I can tell you the 624s are great, except for 2 things:
1) they will deplete your thousand dollars to the penny
2) you will definately want the Mackie sub at some point in the near future if you really want to check the rumble factor in your tracks.
I wanted them, but opted out this go round cuz I wasn't willing to spring for the sub (not to mention the drama of proper sub placement in a control room).
Spin's Event 20/20bas jammies are cool indeed and will run you about 800 a pair.
Check into Hafler power amps and monitors - the ain't bad, and they ain't expensive, either. In fact, if you get a Hafler setup, you'll have enough dough left to get a so-so amp and set of big ol' clubby speakers when you wanna see how your shit'll sound in the club (or the sub).
I listened to heaps of monitors before I settled on a pair of Event 20/20bas' and Mackie 824s. And yes, if I only need 1 set I would've bought something different and been out of an additional hundred ben franklins or so, but that's another story.
Oh, I see lots of music chains running special on Hafler amps and KRK monitors. I don't know much about them, but you should check 'em out, too. A few people on the BBS swear by 'em.
Good Luck,
Flo' Dolo