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Absolutepower
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I tried researching this but couldn't find anything. Why would you want faders to be motorized, and if you have them, what next?
rog999
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motorized faders
I have never used them but I believe they are motorized so that the faders can automatically revert to saved settings.
Roger
I have never used them but I believe they are motorized so that the faders can automatically revert to saved settings.
Roger
Jim Lad
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That's right but to understand it a little better, try mixing without them. I do, by the way but the point is, you have your mix half done. switch it off and come back later, the faders all go to the right spot.
Less time consuming and more accurate than the alternative.
Less time consuming and more accurate than the alternative.
legionserial
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You can also stick toy soldiers to them and use automation to program a dance routine.
Re-tox_stl
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Chibi Nappa
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More than recalling settings, you can have more channels than you have faders. I have a 64 channel board with 16 faders and 4 page buttons. You press page 2, and the faders snap into position for channels 17-32.
Dogbreath
Im an ex-spurt
I especially like when I'm mixing and I do automated passes.
I'll go thru and ride the faders on bank 1 - 12, riding till I get the db's just the way I want em and save that scene as the automated pass.
Then I'll ride faders 13 - 24 and do the same thing.
So when I'm done my faders just recall all the automated passes and the faders fly.
(then I do it again cuz my mix sucked.
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I'll go thru and ride the faders on bank 1 - 12, riding till I get the db's just the way I want em and save that scene as the automated pass.
Then I'll ride faders 13 - 24 and do the same thing.
So when I'm done my faders just recall all the automated passes and the faders fly.
(then I do it again cuz my mix sucked.
)
austinm08
the pigeon knows the way.
Exactly. I can't believe nobody else mentioned this. I think one of the best uses of motorized faders is writing automation. Heck of a lot more fun than using your mouse to do it.I especially like when I'm mixing and I do automated passes.
I'll go thru and ride the faders on bank 1 - 12, riding till I get the db's just the way I want em and save that scene as the automated pass.
Then I'll ride faders 13 - 24 and do the same thing.
So when I'm done my faders just recall all the automated passes and the faders fly.
(then I do it again cuz my mix sucked.
kcearl
I see deaf people
i thought they were for the disabled
Steenamaroo
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Dr. Varney
Pimp
Armistice
Son of Yoda
They're really good for impressing / scaring non-musical people...
Oh my god, what's happening to my recording desk!!!!!??? RUN!! RUN!!!!
Oh my god, what's happening to my recording desk!!!!!??? RUN!! RUN!!!!
dastrick
huh???
Writing automation is my least favorite thing to do in mixing. If I had flying faders I would probably enjoy it a lot more. I love it when things move by themselves. 
austinm08
the pigeon knows the way.
Sometimes they scare me.. like when I turn off my 002 and hear a fader(s) move 20 minutes later when trying to go to sleep.. Still haven't figured out why it's doing that. lolThey're really good for impressing / scaring non-musical people...
Definitely good for impressing people, though. First time I saw them at my school, I didn't believe my eyes.
Yes, writing automation with a mouse is a chore and a half. Don't like it? Move a bunch of edit points with the mouse.Writing automation is my least favorite thing to do in mixing. If I had flying faders I would probably enjoy it a lot more. I love it when things move by themselves.
Writing with faders is natural and quick. Don't like it? Ctrl + Z and try again.
Steenamaroo
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it's annoying though, cos, as useful as writing automation is, the faders on a digi 002/003 are pretty loud, if you write a really quick fade in at the start of a waveform or whatever..
took me faaaar too long to figure out i could program my automation, then just hit the midi mode button so that the faders don't actually move on playback! handy tip!
took me faaaar too long to figure out i could program my automation, then just hit the midi mode button so that the faders don't actually move on playback! handy tip!
austinm08
the pigeon knows the way.
I've never had a problem with their loudness. Is it an issue of annoyance or does it happen while recording?
Either way, for future reference, where is this MIDI mode button you speak of in case I'd like to turn off the fader movement?
EDIT: Oh, I searched and found a thread at the DUC where they mentioned the "Fader Mute" button on the control surface... NICE.
Steenamaroo
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i don't have the problem when recording, but the i don't usually have any automation until all the tracking is done. i'm usually on a tight time limit.
midi map a and b are below the headphone volume knobs on a 003.
i can't remember what way it works on 002 but it's there somewhere.
only annoys me when i'm mixing at low/normal volumes, especially drums where you wana hear every hit, then all you hear is SWOOOSH! lol
midi map a and b are below the headphone volume knobs on a 003.
i can't remember what way it works on 002 but it's there somewhere.
only annoys me when i'm mixing at low/normal volumes, especially drums where you wana hear every hit, then all you hear is SWOOOSH! lol
Steenamaroo
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EDIT: Oh, I searched and found a thread at the DUC where they mentioned the "Fader Mute" button on the control surface... NICE.
tip top
hope it's useful.
austinm08
the pigeon knows the way.
I was going to say, normally you don't have automation until after tracking. hah.
Oh yeah. I'm sure it will be sometimes.tip top
So how do you like the 003 compared to the 002?
Steenamaroo
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i can't really compare them to be honest.
i did own a 002 briefly, but it was bought on ebay as 'used but perfectly working' and it arrived not working.
there was a HUUUGE back and forth with the seller cos he was in USA and i'm in NI.
to save postage and hassle he was all 'just go ahead and open the back to make sure that all the connectors are tight'
then when i said that they were tight and it still didn't work, he was like 'well, how can i give you a refund now that you've tampered with it'
any way i got a refund,obviously, and just bought a 003 brand new.
i'm sure the 002 would have been absolutely fine if it worked, but i never got to know it.
003 is great, but tbh i don't use the onboard pres at all.
i don't dislike them as such, but i have an octorpre, then the four channels of home racked pres that we talked about, so there's no need.
it does pain me slightly that i could be using logic with a much cheaper interface, but i guess i'm set in my ways for now.
i only bought into protools cos when i applied for college the tutors put a real emphasis on it.
when i got to college the elitism took a swing and all of a sudden logic was the thing to have! lol..but screw them, i'm happy
i did own a 002 briefly, but it was bought on ebay as 'used but perfectly working' and it arrived not working.
there was a HUUUGE back and forth with the seller cos he was in USA and i'm in NI.
to save postage and hassle he was all 'just go ahead and open the back to make sure that all the connectors are tight'
then when i said that they were tight and it still didn't work, he was like 'well, how can i give you a refund now that you've tampered with it'
any way i got a refund,obviously, and just bought a 003 brand new.
i'm sure the 002 would have been absolutely fine if it worked, but i never got to know it.
003 is great, but tbh i don't use the onboard pres at all.
i don't dislike them as such, but i have an octorpre, then the four channels of home racked pres that we talked about, so there's no need.
it does pain me slightly that i could be using logic with a much cheaper interface, but i guess i'm set in my ways for now.
i only bought into protools cos when i applied for college the tutors put a real emphasis on it.
when i got to college the elitism took a swing and all of a sudden logic was the thing to have! lol..but screw them, i'm happy