We need to start putting ALL of the new beats into the MP3 Mixing Clinic.......

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"Your forum has turned into a mini MP3 Clinic."

That was handed down from the powers that be............

spin

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No offense intended Spin, but the people in the MP3 clinic, don't "get" hip-hop, and I think that's why we post our beats in here....

This forum don't take up a lot of bandwidth, so I don't see why they complaining bout it.
 
Mr. Moderator,

I thought this was a mini MP3 clinic.;)

Seriously, I don't see why cats who post beats here shy away from the MP3 forum. Seems the best way to get an objective opinion about the sound quality of their tracks, and those who be into rhymes and such would check the tracks on that tip, too.

It's pretty rare that there's any kind of dialogue about much of anything in this forum except for cats to "check my new beat out." I mean, nothing about new music, current hot topics in hip-hop, or house, or club, or dance scenes, nothing to/for/about DJs of any genre, MCs, and so on.

We b-boys shouldn't fall prey to the ol' "seperate but equal" when it comes to our work and such. The self-imposed division amongst musical "castes" works against us when it comes to validity in places where we need to be validated - like audio quality, song structure, and the like. I think a lot of people check out cats beats and just don't comment cuz they don't want some fool hollering "what do you know about hip-hop, guitar player?!?" or some other stupid shit. Those who do comment know that doing so could bring the selective wrath of the poster or his/her supporters. Fortunately, those folk don't give a shit, but still.

For a dude like me, I check this forum regularly, but don't shit really be happening except cats posting beats. Fine & dandy, but no mention of anything hip-hop in this forum EXCEPT cats beats & someone asking about an MPC vs Triton vs Motif vs Phantom vs RS vs Your-Favorite-Sofware-or-Place-To-Download-Wav-Files-or-sell-bullshit-bootlegged-CDs.

Can't say I'm not around, but since I don't be checking other cats shit out, it doesn't leave me much room to contribute to the forum, and you & I both know there is no DJ culture on this BBS,
<sigh>
nor much commentary about anything else related to hip-hop.

I stick around cuz it's free & sometimes cool, but there ain't shit happening here but posting MP3s.

Maybe if you enforce the posting policy this forum will have the opportunity to grow into something a bit more dimensional & mature.

don't fret folks, i'm not calling you individuals immature, I'm saying I'd like to see this community grow outwards & upwards instead of inwards & down.


DJ Flo' Dolo

"You might know it all, but you don't know me"
-KEVLAR-
 
Change of POETS said:


1. No offense intended Spin,

2. but the people in the MP3 clinic, don't "get" hip-hop,

3. and I think that's why we post our beats in here....

4. This forum don't take up a lot of bandwidth, so I don't see why they [are] complaining bout it.
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1. None taken. ;)

2. I understand your position and statement. However, if the patrons of this forum check here for new hip-hop beats, why can't they, instead, look inside of the MP3 Mixing Clinic.

3. I understand. Once again, the beats/songs belong in the MP3 Mixing Clinic.

4. You are correct, again. And..... I will reiterate, songs/beats and the critique of those said songs/beats belong in the MP3 Mixing Clinic.

Peace...

spin

The Land of Moderators, because those who wish to be mediators between two resolute thinkers are marked as mediocre: they lack eyes to see the unparalleled; seeing things as similar and making them the same is the mark of weak eyes.
 
Change of POETS said:
No offense intended Spin, but the people in the MP3 clinic, don't "get" hip-hop,
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There's a lot of music in the MP3 clinic that I don't "get", but I still enjoy listening to it. A good recording is a good recording, regardless of the genre.

Just remember, in the clinic, you will get more listens if you stick around to comment on other people's recordings, and don't just post your track and sit back waiting for people to reply.

travis
 
ignition said:
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1. There's a lot of music in the MP3 clinic that I don't "get", but I still enjoy listening to it. A good recording is a good recording, regardless of the genre.

2. Just remember, in the clinic, you will get more listens if you stick around to comment on other people's recordings, and don't just post your track and sit back waiting for people to reply....
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1. Good point, Travis.

2. That is a VERY VERY good point. :cool:

spin
 
Since we are talking about beats... Could you check my new beat out and tell me what you think?


http:/www.justkidding.com/justkidding.mp3

Haha!!!! :)


For now I will just post at the MP3 Clinic.

Although in my past experience, I didn't get much response at the MP3 clinic even after commenting on other beats. I usually get good responses here. But a rule is a rule. I understand.
 
pkmusic said:
......Although in my past experience, I didn't get much response at the MP3 clinic even after commenting on other beats. I usually get good responses here....
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Wecan look for the hip-hop beats in the MP3 Clinic Forum , instead of in the Hip-Hop Forum. :cool:

spin
 
I aint the one to feed you pork and tell you its chicken so let me drop my two cents. I have been to the mp3 clinic before and i was not much feeling it.
In here i know if i get a critique chances are it may be genuine and from somebody who listens to the kind of music I aspire to make so there may be more usefull feedback as opposed to what i ran into people giving BS feedback just to get you to peep there stuff. Now granted there are no guarantees on feed back being genuine period but i liked the odds in here.

Now that my bitchin and Whinnin is out of the way You know me I will post over there I dont much like it but I support this community forum and rules is rules. In for a penny in for a pound:D
 
Thanks soundboy! ;)

I understand that you all don't want to post in the MP3 Clinic. All of us here in the Hip-Hop Forum can view/critique the Hip-Hop beats in the MP3 Clinic.

Nothing has basically changed. We'll just peep the beats/songs in the other forum. :cool:

spin
 
Often, the guys posting mixes in here are looking for feedback on flow, lyrics, subject matter, and not so much for production critiques. That might be part of the problem.

It might seem weird, but if you read a few of the mp3 mixing clinic threads, you might see an entire page comparing amp distortion characteristics in just the 3-7k range (tone vs. buzzing bees), an entire page on the proper blending of bass di/mic tracks, etc.

Sure, there are discussions on songwriting and performance, but those would be secondary discussions on a recording bbs.

Here, you might get entire pages on the effectiveness of a triple-cadence flow on a certain track, rating vocal performaces (weak, tight, good breath control, louder man, etc.), instrumentation, proper sampling. . .

And it all comes with a disclaimer, "Don't mind the sound quality, I know it kinda sucks."

Well, that's just it isn't it?

The guys "over there" aren't interested in your flow, etc. they just want you to adjust the release on your 2-bus compressor because the kick is out pumping the whole mix, and not in a cool old-school way.

Maybe that's the same reason there have only been a few posts here since the change.

Who's talking about current trends in production techniques?

Who'd rather talk about the bare-minimum vocal mic so they can start posting beats already?
 
mallcore pop

I fully understand what you are sharing with me/us. :cool:

I am saying this, "If you can post it here, you can post it there. If you can check it here, you can check it there".

I am not trying to be caustic or offensive. :cool:

spin
 
SPINSTERWUN said:
mallcore pop
I am not trying to be caustic or offensive. :cool:

spin
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I totally understand, and I encourage everyone to check out everyone's tunes, regardless of style/genre!!

Added bonus, it can lead to cool new directions in writing/production. . . :cool:

(I was just suggesting a few possible reasons some people might not see eye to eye over there, very little offense intended.) :cool:
 
Sorry...

I'm not with it...

Nothing against the MP3 Clinic crowd and sure shit got placid around here but I just can't see it. It reminds me of the assemblies in the school gym. That much of a distraction in the system and somebodies gonna fight before it's over.....

I think we outta just make more effort to shoot out some replies.

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But cats over there where very helpful with me. If it wasn't for my slow connect I probably would skate through every now and then but 10-15 minutes to peep a 5 minute MP3... It's long enough to just peep the cats in here....
 
Re: Sorry...

LAZI said:
I'm not with it........
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I do not see the difference......

What is the physical difference of posting the song in this forum, as opposed to physically posting the same song in the other forum. :confused:

spin
 
Hmmm...

Ok, so maybe I could post more (or not), but if I wanted to hear other people's jawns I'd goto the MP3 clinic.

The fact is I DON'T peep other people's shit, nor do I post mine for review. I check the dj/hip-hop forum for things other than MP3s, it's just hard to find anything else but links to sound files.

It don't kill me to skip those threads, but it wouldn't kill you (whoever "you" is) to post links to music in the forum that was created for just that purpose.

B-boys or B-girls who think they'll get a better or more valid response posting links to tracks in here are probably way off-base, and definately acting just as fucked up as the motherfuckers who think if you produce hip-hop tracks, MC, or DJ that you suck - off tops. I can't be mad about someone being prejudiced towards me if my mentality shows itself to be the same as theirs. I'd rather have an excellent recording or mastering engineer who deals with mostly rock & roll (or whatever) handle my stuff than a fledgling cat who is pretty much all hip-hop. Why?

I think...The better engineer should know "the rules," and therefore be able to bend, twist, or break them in such a way as to best serve my needs...
At the very least, he/she should have the skill set to listen to "my kind of stuff" (reference CDs of my choosing, etc) and get a mix or mastering effort closer than just "in the ballpark." But, that's just me...

IF I WAS POSTING TRACKS W/RHYMES... I wouldn't give a rat's ass about somebody who says they don't really dig hip-hop critiquing lyrics, so I'd just let it slide on that tip. If someone tells you they feel assaulted or abused or tortured by listening to hip-hop, then kindly tell 'em to keep their comments to themselves or just fucking ignore them. They don't wanna recognize that the same force that made blues, rock-n-roll, and most jazz styles came from the same place hip-hop did/does. You can't trust what they say on the critical tip if they're already jaded against your style of stuff. I guess you can respect their earnestness, though...:rolleyes:
If you want feedback on your flow & you know that the audio quality could be better, say that, post your shit, and move on...

Those who are into hip-hop and/or not so close-minded will surely contribute their 2cents, as well-evidenced on this & the MP3 forum already. If some asshole simply HAS to let you know they don't like hip-hop, but they've still done you the "favor" of commenting on your shit, just take it with a grain of salt. Do that anyway, regardless. One don't gotta like the music or genre to know a good mix or understand what goes into making the music sound good (tho' it certainly helps to have some "background" in the style of music).

I'd be willing to bet that those looking for feedback on their shit will gain a whole lot more positive info (vs negative bullshit) if they post where people go exclusively to listen to other people's work.

But again, that's just me & I don't post shit for people to hear...

diendolo
 
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