waves presets???

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I know i may be accused on selecting the easy way (and maybe i am...:(),
but i could use and learn from presets of waves plugins made by you experts guys
i read and read and try whatever i can imagine but i think i am going nowhere with all the mixing stuff...
 
Imaginator said:
i read and read and try whatever i can imagine but i think i am going nowhere with all the mixing stuff...
Trust me, you'd learn even less by using the presets. Just because the DAWs allow preset functionality, doesn't mean they are gonna be useful, specially for stuff such as EQ and compression. Maybe Reverbs, but even then they're not going to work in the context.

Use your ears and imagination... Imaginator :p
 
I do think the best thing is to do it yourself, however, I also think that trying some presets can be very helpful. For example, some of the add on presets for the waves SSL stuff are pretty handy (is it the Jack Joseph Puig ones? ). The kick drum preset from that collection is actually pretty nice. The biggest thing however is to maybe try some. When you here on that you like, or is even interesting, you can take a look at it and see what was done to to get that specific sound and then use some or parts of that technique to apply in your own mixes. The specific preset I am thinking of has some pretty serious EQ'ing going on, but sounds great on many kick drums. Some of the EQ'ing is pretty extreme and as a result, many people may never figure that out because they are hesitant to process something that hard.

One thing to remember with presets though, is that often times those presets worked well when created but that was with a specific tracking chain and/or source signal. So not only is it all subjective, but also came out of a whole different set of circumstances. Personally, I do not make presets for myself. I find that when I do that it makes it too easy for me to apply things without giving them proper thought and attention. I don't transfer mix templates across a mix either so it forces me to do each thing I want done which gives me another opportunity to address why i might be something and ask myself if that thing is the right thing, or even necessary. Also, once you have been mixing for a while, you know how to quickly maneuver your mix in the direction you want without having to just load stuff.
 
firstly, thank you all for your help....
I understand that i every song needs it's own mix and there are not stereotypes in sound..
The reasons i believe that i could use some presets,are that i could learn how other people use the same plugins and also i would start tweaking the settings from a standard point.
I mean that the process of playing arround with some presets would make me realize, what things can spoil the overall sound and avoid those things..
I hope you get the point...
 
Presets can be useful in so far as they give you a place to start. Someone who has never used a reveb before can learn a lot looking at the presets for plates versus rooms versus halls etc to see how they work and why they are different for example.

If a preset happens to work with the sound you are aimng for then why not so long as you understand they are not a magic bullet that will work on every mix every time
 
The point is, you cannot just take a sound in isolation and make it sound "good" and hope it works in context. The mistake that many of us make (including myself) is that we work on some sound and make it sound really impressive, and then struggle with it in the mix itself.

The reason that presets are not going to helpful is because of this reason. They might make something "sound good" in isolation, but most likely they will be useless in the context of the mix.

When mixing, it is not uncommon to treat other sounds for example with EQ to make something else stand out for example. In order for you to be able to do this you need to train your ear on the interaction of all the sounds rather than one specific sound in isolation.
 
I know i may be accused on selecting the easy way (and maybe i am...:(),
but i could use and learn from presets of waves plugins made by you experts guys
i read and read and try whatever i can imagine but i think i am going nowhere with all the mixing stuff...

Your question is far too broad. What specific plug-in? There are so many "wave" plug-ins that it makes your question impossible to answer. It's like asking what color should I paint my car so the stereo sounds better.

Given all that, pick one plug-in lean how to use it. Learn what each setting does. What's the best way to do that? Read the manuals, experiment, and start tweaking setting. There is no silver bullet, get in there and start tunring knobs. :rolleyes:
 
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