Waves Plug-ins

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Bigsnake00 said:
For some reason I cant get the Waves Demo to work.

Teacher, what applications do you use the bass trebble plugs?
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bass thing I've used it on kicks

the treble thing I use it on whatever needs to be brightened up, something you never notice unless you A/B with commercial CD's while mixing
 
Bigsnake00 said:
Also,
What is NATIVE?
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means it uses your computers CPU to 'run' the plugins as opposed to the UAD or TDM where you need the pci cards to run the plugins on the onboard pci processor.
 
Teacher said:
means it uses your computers CPU to 'run' the plugins as opposed to the UAD or TDM where you need the pci cards to run the plugins on the onboard pci processor.
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The latter is most definitely preferred, because the pci processor does all the work that your cpu's processor would normally have to do, so you can free up more bandwidth for other tasks such as more plugs or tracks at one time.
 
Yeah, that would be a huge plus. When I upgrade computers next, I will get a desktop.
 
I decided to just put my money in on a RNC compressor. That is basically the reason I would buy the mix pack is for the compressor, and I will upgrade my computer in the future, and I would really like to have that card to keep my processor load down.

Sound like a good idea teach???
 
The thing is, i think the UAD1 and Waves plugins Value to Price ratio is really quite close to the same. In general that is. Its just that the big Waves bundles just have alot more in them. You dont just get a compressors and EQs but alot of shaping tools and alot of other tools that the UAD1 doesnt have. Multiband compressors, sound design tools, bass harmonizers, even EQ with a graphical interface, stereo spread tools, meter/phase/frequency analysers, etc. Its got alot in there that you dont use every day, but theres alot of it. And thats why i say its a very solid package. Your given basically every tool you could possibly need and all of them sound great. I love the RNC compressor and the C1. They are solid compressors and i often use the Renn Compressor on vocals over the UAD1 compressors. They just dont do anything really fancy to the sound, and some times i like that. Sometimes it needs opto and auto release and stuff like that. So they are solid at what they do. Also take the Reverbs. The customization on these things are great. And they do sound good as room simulators. And the IR1 is fantastic also, although there are cheaper convulusion reverb plugs out there. Audiotrack is also a great all in one package that uses very little CPU. I used to use this alot until i got my UAD1. I got so wound up in the "UAD1 is plain out the best" that i forgot about the other tools that i had that would be better. Xstatic jogged my memory a while ago about what else i could be using.

The UAD1 is really mostly known for extreme colorized EQs and Compressors. They are awesome and are some of the best vintage gear plugs out there. I dont find myself using the EX-1 compressor and EQ on it as much anymore as i used to. Its very nice but i like a few others more. I havnt been to fond of the gates and delays on the UAD1 either. So basically all use the UAD1 for is the 1176, LA2A, Pultec, Reverbs, and sometimes EX-1. These are solid, but they are few.

So you take the full package of UAD1 for with its amount of plugins and put it up to the Waves Plat bundle for say. Plain out you get tons more plugins with the Waves Platinum then with the UAD1.

Then again you do get a DSP card with the UAD1. But ive got a hunch that Waves will hit their nick into the DSP card market soon too. And probably will put out some pretty competive DSP plugs with it.

Waves might be higher priced per plug then their worth. But i think people look at the $3000-$4000 price tag on the bundle and nothing more. You are getting alot for that much.

Danny
 
I find I still use Waves stuff a lot. It's high on transparency (even the Renaissance plugs), low on character and sound great. They are audio standards.

There's flashier stuff out there like the Powercore plugs and the UA plugs that are amazing, but sometimes you feel like ice cream instead of apple pie.

The funny thing is that native processing power is getting so good that you almost don't NEED DSP acceleration unless you are doing a ton of HD mixing.

That's why, ultimately, I couldn't justify a ProTools HD system for my studio. Too much money for too little advantage.
 
Cloneboy - Heh so you didnt go with the Protools TDM then eh? Go for something like that when your running a giant SSL board or something.

Your right about Native though. Except i hate when i overload. Its like i have to go and rethink my entire signal processing to make it fit with the CPU. And when you do overload the entire system wigs out. I really want to find good DSP driven gates. Maybe the UAD1 does have decent ones but i havnt found them yet. Gates really make the load unstable when its in the middle of open and closed. Ever have that problem? Its like they are about to open but its not quite sure yet and you get this huge burst of CPU overload that lasts like a half a second?

Anyway. The compressor on that Country song i posted in the MP3 forum is using the Renn Comp. The 1176 just made it too rough for what i was looking for.

Danny
 
Bigsnake00 said:
I decided to just put my money in on a RNC compressor. That is basically the reason I would buy the mix pack is for the compressor, and I will upgrade my computer in the future, and I would really like to have that card to keep my processor load down.

Sound like a good idea teach???
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if your mixing analog(i e summing thru some sort of mixer) its a great idea. If your doing ITB mixing i think the waves stuff or some sort of plug-in solution is more valuable. Compressing on the way in is too hit or miss for you to rely on it completely IMO.

Did you say what s/w your using? Cuz i know S/w like sonar 4 comes with a great selection of plugs(Ultrafunk sonitus), which will suit you just fine until your ready for more 'flavors'
 
Bigsnake00 said:
I have been searching for some plugin upgrades, sepcificaly eq and compression, and came across the Waves Native Musicians Bundle 2. Has anyone had any experience with any of these plugins. Looks like a great value
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You can download the Waves plug-in as a demo and try them out. I personally love their graphical EQ. They also have I believe a tubes plug-in that I absolutetly love.
 
"...I go overseas and I get oversiezed, london he-through, me and my people, they think that illegal, is synonym for negro...." Mos Def"

Teacher,
I always thought Mos said "London Heathrow", like the airport? :eek:
 
junkmanistan said:
"...I go overseas and I get oversiezed, london he-through, me and my people, they think that illegal, is synonym for negro...." Mos Def"

Teacher,
I always thought Mos said "London Heathrow", like the airport? :eek:
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lol....I didn't understand what duke said, I just wrote it how it sounded....thanks for the clarification
 
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