vst instruments. help please.

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so i want to know what vst instruments are (like real guitar etc.). and i have a couple of questions-

are they virtual instruments which can be played using the pc?

do you need to connect your synth/keyboard to your pc to play these?

does adobe audition support vst instrument plugins?

can somebody please go over the steps you need to do to use these? like first i assume you'll have to connect your synth to your pc. then what?
 
ok i am beginning to realize that adobe audition does not support vstI. i use audition cs6. i also have audition 3.0 installed.

can somebody suggest a VSTi supporting host for a newbie like me. I don't want to do anything serious. I just want to play a guitar using my synthesizer. lol. I wonder if that made sense.
 
ok reaper i think is not a freeware but anyway is it easy to use? any other easier to use freeware?

and what about my others questions...? xD
 
are they virtual instruments which can be played using the pc?
yes

do you need to connect your synth/keyboard to your pc to play these?
Not necessarily. You can use your keyboard to play them on your PC. Or you can insert notes in a midi editor and play them from here.

does adobe audition support vst instrument plugins?
I don't use Audition, so I don't know.

can somebody please go over the steps you need to do to use these? like first i assume you'll have to connect your synth to your pc. then what?

1 Connect synth to PC
2 Open up DAW (Cubase, Logic, Reaper . . .any that can deal with midi)
3 Make sure that the DAW recognises the keyboard as an input device
4 Create a midi track
5 Insert the VST as a plugin on that track
6 Arm the track for recording midi
7 Hit record and start playing
8 Stop when done, go back to start and play back your glorious composition.

There are some other things that vary from DAW to DAW.

In Reaper, for example, you don't need to create a midi track. You just create a track, and select midi as the input. Also in Reaper, to hear what you are recording you need to enable the track monitor.

Reaper is not freeware. You do get an uncrippled and unlimited free trial. However, it is really cheap, and if you are thinking of doing recording seriously, it is worth paying for.
 
so i want to know what vst instruments are (like real guitar etc.).

are they virtual instruments which can be played using the pc?

do you need to connect your synth/keyboard to your pc to play these?
What follows is a bit of an ear/eyefull but within it should be some stuff that's useful. It's part of an answer that I gave to someone asking a similar question a while back. In addition to the method Gekko zzed described via MIDI, you can also play the instrument in real time with the actual sound you will be using.
I know that my answer gives far more than you've asked for but think of it as future reference........perhaps.

Virtual instruments are one of the elements that, in my opinion, have revolutionized home recording. It's enabled dreamers like me that dreamed for 25 years of recording songs with instruments like sitars, saxophones and steel pans and many others to do so. But the existence alone of the VSTis doesn't guarantee glory. Because the real heavy weather is twofold ~ hunting down the VSTis and testing them out and then learning how to tweak them to realistic ends.

I've got friends that play steel pans and I was about to buy one a couple of weeks back. I'm glad I delayed while looking for a 14 note pan because I found this fantastic sampled steel pan for free ten days ago. It is fantastic, it is not some synthesized fake, but a real played pan. The reason I mention this is twofold ~ firstly, there are some good free ones out there in cyberspace. You have to look and find and be disappointed. The same applies to the ones you buy. People will recommend but all our tastes are so different. I have an almost monomania about instruments sounding authentic. Sampling was great for that because at least you were getting the genuine instrument. But in order to get to the point where you are pretty much settled in what you have, you have to go through alot of packages and searches. It takes alot of time.
I have the software sampler Sampletank 2. It comes with more instrument sounds than even Quincy Jones and Queen could use in a lifetime. These sounds are actual samples of actual instruments, rather than synthesized versions of instrument sounds that didn't really sound accurate. When you play the sounds on Sampletank you're getting those sampled sounds. Now, to me, they are VSTis, which I understand to be virtual instruments. I have other VSTis such as Celtic Instruments, Danny Thompson double bass and Zero G harmonica which I have loaded into Sampletank. They contain single notes so you can play whatever melodies or notes you want to play. They also contain riffs and melodies that I suppose you can work into whatever song you're recording, if you are that way inclined (I tend not to be). On the other hand I also have Cubase 5 loaded into my recording computer (I used to have Cubase SE) but because I use a standalone DAW, I use Cubase to house my other VSTis. So loaded into Cubase is First call horns, MTRON (a mellotron), Lounge Lizard (electric piano), B4 (Hammond organ), Miroslav Philharmonik (orchestral instruments) and Swar systems (Indian instruments). You could add to that Sonik synth and Garritan personal orchestra. These give me a range of colours to add to my recordings. They vary in quality, but again, to me they are VSTis (virtual instruments), though they are referred to as samples and sometimes sample sound libraries.

Basically, if you see the terms 'vsti', 'samples', 'sample sound library', 'virtual instrument', 'sample based' ~ investigate ! I made the mistake of buying this, which I thought would be a great addition. They said it had samples of Indian instruments etc but when I got it, it wasn't quite what I thought. It was mainly loops and melodies and though I was able to load the instruments I wanted into Sampletank 2, the range was only about 15 notes. Usable, but harder work, than say, Swar systems which, for most of the melody instruments gives at least 3 octaves.
But some DAWs come with VSTis. Cubase 5 came with hundreds of sounds from Halion. But I personally thought they were all fairly lame except for some of the synthesizer and sound effects sounds. So I don't use them. It's hard to say "this sound is better than that sound" because it's really so much down to personal taste. I know what I like. For instance, I used to use the violin and viola sounds in Sampletank 2 until I got Celtic Instruments and Miroslav philharmonik. They're so much better that I'd never use the Sampletank ones on their own again. There's so much variation.
Bear in mind that there are also loads of free samples and VSTis on the net and there are lots of people on this forum with invaluable information on them and where to get them and how to load them.

When you put your sample CD/VSTi into the computer, a menu should appear or something that asks you if you take on board all their terms and conditions. As long as you say yes or "I agree" then it should take you to the installer. Basically, most of the ones I have moreorless load them for you. The ones that go into Sampletank 2 are a little more complicated but believe me, I'm technically challenged to the max and I've managed to figure it out.........eventually ! Sometimes, it's taken me months.
Anyway, once loaded, they should show up in [your DAW]. If you press F11 on your computer keyboard, the list of instruments that have been loaded should show up. As long as your MIDI/controller keyboard is properly connected, just click on the instrument you want to play and the menu of those instruments should appear. As an example, say I click F11 and a whole list of programmes (MTRON, Lounge Lizard, Miroslav etc) comes up and I want to play some mellotron. I click on MTRON. Then all the different mellotron sounds come up. Say I want the half speed Hammond mellotron, then I click on that and Bingo ! Whatever you're monitoring through (headphones, speakers, whatever), you should now hear loud and clear whatever you play.

And importantly, read the manuals. They make bits of sense that help you to join the dots !

I hope that's a useful start.

I would try to combine real instruments with virtual ones if you can. It's the combination, I find, that prevents the virtual ones standing too much scrutiny !
Hope this all helps.
If none of that was of any use, forget you ever met me ! :D
 
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Is there a VSTi guitar that sounds like an actual guitar being played (which is what the OP is looking for)? I doubt it. He mentions having a synthesizer - it will need USB MIDI output in order to 'play' a VSTi without an interface. From the OP's questions, I would doubt he's ready to do MIDI editing.
 
Is there a VSTi guitar that sounds like an actual guitar being played (which is what the OP is looking for)? I doubt it.
I was going to say something about this but I didn't want to discourage the OP as it was guitar they said they wanted to play. In my experience, I've never yet heard an electric guitar VSTi that in my opinion was worthy of the name. Sonik synth did have one pretty good acoustic guitar but it wasn't sufficient enough for me to keep the package and I sold it eventually.
 
Not necessarily. You can use your keyboard to play them on your PC. Or you can insert notes in a midi editor and play them from here.

I need a little elaboration on this. By keyboard you mean my pc's keyboard (using which i type)??? and what's a midi editor.
 
NO, he meant an actual keyboard instrument. If you have to ask what a MIDI editor is, you are not ready to use one! I suggest you do some serious reading.
 
ok reaper i think is not a freeware but anyway is it easy to use? any other easier to use freeware?

and what about my others questions...? xD

You didn't say "freeware" and I sensed that you were about to ask a whole lot more questions, most of which you could answer yourself by doing a bit of research and reading.
 
NO, he meant an actual keyboard instrument. If you have to ask what a MIDI editor is, you are not ready to use one! I suggest you do some serious reading.
So i did some reading and i figure it's a software using which you can edit midi files.
Reaper is a midi editor. So is fl studio. And there are many others. What
would you suggest for a beginner?
Please suggest under both freeware and paid softwares .
 
ok not sure if anyone is still doing this thread but i am also interested in this subject. i have cubase le 4 and have worked out the voice and guitar recording. at the moment i am adding drum loops via an audio track and then copy paste to extend it. its ok but is repetitive and constant. i am at the point of trying to find how to add instruments other than learn to play them myself. i have the vst in my cubase but not sure how it works. from my understanding so far i have to connect a keyboard to my interface via a midi connection then find that connection in the add device on cubase. once that is set up i can then add a (not sure on this) instrument track or midi track in cubase project. i can then add a vst instruments either from cubase library or ones that have been added from any downloads which should be in cubase somewhere as well. once i add a vst say drum top hat or bass guitar i can then play that instrument on the keyboard connected to the interface. i can then record that instrument in cubase by playing the notes on the keyboard to match what ever tune i want or to play along to another audio/instrument line in the cubase project. i haven't tried this as yet as i have to get the keyboard but have been trying to understand it first so could someone tell me if im going in the right direction. as far as adding/writing in the notes well this is a bit over my head at the moment. from what ive read it has something to do with adding a track in the project where i can write the notes i want i think on a midi track or some sort of stave perhaps and it will play the instrument i choose to the notes i have written. is this correct? if not don't worry i will cross that bridge when i set up the keyboard unless i can have a go at it without a keyboard.
 
Yes, you would use a VSTi (instrument/drum program), as an instrument track, and input the notes with a MIDI input device. Pad controller or keyboard. I don't believe that LE4 has a VSTi rack, but it don't really matter for your purpose.

You will just need to use a USB connected controller, to play the notes/drum hits. Well, you could just program them in the piano roll as well, but way less fluently productive. I don't believe that LE4 has the 'Virtual Keyboard' either. LE5, would allow you to use your 'qwerty' keyboard as an input device....
 
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