Volume For the Finished Product???? Help

[jerberson12]

Ok, i finished the mixing part. I see all the volume meter on each tracks and the meter on the main output are almost filling up the red zone. Once I crank it up more a little bit, Im going to have an obvious clipping/ticks/clicks/or whatever that anoyying sound is. I then, export the music into WMV format. When I play it and compare with the other WMV commercial music, it needs more volume. Volume on the other commercial music are pretty loud than on my music. How do I boost up volume without clipping/ticks/clicks?

OH its WMA not WMV

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I was going to make a smart-assed reply about this being the ten millionth time this question has been asked on this board in the past two years until I realized how refreshing it actually is that there's a two-time PMC top-ten-er that's never heard of compression...



Compress your peaks and then use post-compression makeup gain to bring up the RMS level of your mixdown.

G.

 

[danny.guitar]

What is PMC?

 

[Massive Master]

One thing is for sure - Don't be exporting as WMV - That's an end user format. And not a very good one at that...

 

[jerberson12]

I was going to make a smart-assed reply about this being the ten millionth time this question has been asked on this board in the past two years until I realized how refreshing it actually is that there's a two-time PMC top-ten-er that's never heard of compression...



Compress your peaks and then use post-compression makeup gain to bring up the RMS level of your mixdown.

G.

POST-Compression? RMS Level? Whaaaaaaaaaat???????
Sad to say I am a great fan of presets

BTW its WMA not WMV

 

[jerberson12]

What is PMC?

there is actually a guy who posted 1646 times with lots of rep points who does not know PMC

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Sad to say I am a great fan of presets

Ummmmm.....what does that have to do with anything said thus far?

BTW its WMA not WMV

Irrelevant; they're the same thing on the audio side. Windows Media Video (WMV) uses the Windows Media Audio (WMA) audio engine.

Jerberson, I'm sorry to say that you have several problems on your hands, namely:

- if your individual track meters are all in the red or approaching red, you have your gain structure messed up somewhere along the line. This will not only affect your sound overall, but it will most likely also affect you ability to bring up your final master volume as high as you probably want it to go.

- you need to learn how to fly your gear without presets before you'll get anything that sounds remotely close to commercial releases.

- Once you're in WMA format its too late. Mix down to WAV and do your pre-mastering there. Once you have a WAV master, you can copy it to any distribution format you want.

What is PMC?

PMC is an amateur mixing contest where someone who doesn't even know the fundamental basics can still regularly come in the top ten.

G.

 

[danny.guitar]

there is actually a guy who posted 1646 times with lots of rep points who does not know PMC

There's actually someone who's been here for 4 years and managed to get into the top 10 without knowing anything about compression or dynamics.

Oh, and also exports to WMA? Why would you do that?

Oh, and yes I do happen to come here and post a lot. Cause I love recording and all the answers you can find here, and also helping when I can. Unless someone is a jackass...

 

[ermghoti]

PMC is an amateur mixing contest where someone who doesn't even know the fundamental basics can still regularly come in the top ten.

G.

Ah. Kind of like a track and field competition where the winning time in the 100 is around two and a half minutes?

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Ah. Kind of like a track and field competition where the winning time in the 100 is around two and a half minutes?

Well, I really didn't mean to disparage the PMC itself. Such contests are very nice ways to share and spead skills and ideas, and some good 4.4/100-quality mixes have come out of them .

It just seems curious to me that someone who has been on this board for going on 4 years and has allegedly placed in the top ten of such a contest twice is a)asking the #1 rookie question that's asked and answered here probably an average of three times a month, b)unfamiliar with the terms "RMS" and "makeup gain", c)apparently runs his tracking *much* hotter than he should, and c)apparently doesn't know this stuff because he does everything by preset.

It's like someone who has been running the 100 for four years and has placed in the top tem twice asking, "What's a starting block?"

There's something about that tazmanian devil avatar........



G.

 

[jerberson12]

OK OK looks like im on the hot seat here

I think i know the problem here, everything is good on my tracks, most of them are on the red zone including the master output. But it seems that everytime I export it to WMA or WAV, the volume decreases for some reason, maybe some setting/configuration on the export part but I couldnt find something about volume in exporting. Also, if I import a commercial music to my Cakewalk Sonar and put it on track, it seems loud but after I export it back out to WMA, volume decrease. So thats it

Cmon guys i know compression.....just a misunderstanding here....

 

[the_crowing]

I think i know the problem here, everything is good on my tracks, most of them are on the red zone including the master output.

You're on the right track then, just need to get them redder...