Visual sound H2O Polarity/Phase question

[Thurgood]

Are the outputs of the Visual Sound H2o (chorus delay) out of phase? Now bear in mind i refer to the effect state as bypassed. In case you are not familiar with the pedal it has two outputs one input. When I connect one output to one amp and the other output to another I sense some way out of phase'ness. Ya know one ear being suck out of your head. I have a couple of pseudo experiments trying to figure this out: I will not bore you with those but golly it sounds like the outputs are OOP. Oh to have a scope. I understand that you will have a shifting time base (phase angle) when pedal is engaged, hense the Chorus effect but bypassed. Any insight or experience welcome. Then I'll further muddy the waters with what crazy crap I been trying to sort this out. Be well all.

 

[Thurgood]

Addendum: older version of the pedal.

 

[ggunn]

Are the outputs of the Visual Sound H2o (chorus delay) out of phase? Now bear in mind i refer to the effect state as bypassed. In case you are not familiar with the pedal it has two outputs one input. When I connect one output to one amp and the other output to another I sense some way out of phase'ness. Ya know one ear being suck out of your head. I have a couple of pseudo experiments trying to figure this out: I will not bore you with those but golly it sounds like the outputs are OOP. Oh to have a scope. I understand that you will have a shifting time base (phase angle) when pedal is engaged, hense the Chorus effect but bypassed. Any insight or experience welcome. Then I'll further muddy the waters with what crazy crap I been trying to sort this out. Be well all.

Do you think the outputs are polarity reversed when the effect is off? You can check that if you have a mixing board. Set up two channels as identically as you can (panned center) and plug an output of the pedal into each with the faders down. Bring up one fader until you have a respectable volume, then bring the other up. If the apparent volume goes down, then the outputs are polarity reversed.

 

[Thurgood]

Ahh, Ggunn to the rescue. Missed hearing from ya. That is a great idea! My signal flow is a bit rusty but I can give it a try. It really "feels" sounds like they are oop. It would not surprise me as it would increase teh "swoosh" when using two amps. I tried somethig similar with by inputing the two pedal outputs into --- Fender deluxe Ch Normal and other into channel Vibrato. as these two are in opposite polarity, then rasing volume on either channel to hear the diff.