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Hi there,

I run a small independent label with some friends of mine here in Norway. Beverly Brothers Recording Company. We have now started to release a series of 7 inch vinyls containing underground music.

Bands/artists who visit sites like homerecording are very interesting for us to release. Any interested persons can go to http://www.angelfire.com/indie/beverlybrothers and check out the news section. If interested, please give us a mail. I promise you: This will NOT make you rich and famous, but maybe heard!

Sorry for not being a more active member, and for posting this message both under Compilation CD and here!

From Norway
 
I think what you are doing is cool. There are many here on homerecording.com that have mp3's available either on their own sites or on http://www.mp3.com.

Maybe its a good idea people that do have mp3's easily available to send you the links so you could review them.

I was on the website, but I cant figure out exactly what type of music you are interested to put on these compilations, can you give us a hint, are you looking for metal, rock, house...?

http://www.mp3.com/spunkonnancy
http://www.garageband.com/artist/salemonsunday
 
HUH?

I saw your site - why would anyone intentionally promote "...releases are often No-budget and Lo-fi-sounding."

I mean, what's the point? Is it lack of gear so you have no choice??? Otherwise, why would you go out of your way to make a Lo-Fi recording???? And is there really a market for Lo-Fi music???? :eek:

'Splain please :confused:

Bruce Valeriani
Blue Bear Sound
 
I must agree with Bvelaria. Also why is it put on vinal, I am sure CD is a cheaper option nowadays. What bothers me is why would they be lo-fi.
 
Hey Helmut...

...kinda smells like SPAM in here, don'cha think??

:D
 
Its all in the image.
These guys want the image to be of a cheap punk label from the early 80's. They got the logo for it and everything!
I'm sure loads of people would like it. :)
 
Hmmmm...

...even the Sex Pistols were recorded in a pro studio!

Bruce
 
Re: Hey Helmut...

bvaleria said:
...kinda smells like SPAM in here, don'cha think??

:D
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BTW, I mean Questfan's spam...

(just to be clear!)

Bruce
 
Hello friends!

I see that some of you are a little bit hung up on this lo-fi and vinyl thing we've got going here in Norway.

1. I'm so dumb that I don't know what this SPAM thing is all about. But it seems like it's more important for you guyes than my REAL project (releasing underground music). So have fun with SPAM, while I release interesting music.

2. It's chepaer to release vinyl than CD. This allows us to release five times a year instead of once. More music, more fun.

3. There is a market for vinyl. I've released a CD a couple of years ago, but people will rather buy Oasis or Madonna instead of underground-CD's. Vinyl-releases is easier for small labels to distribute.

4. The Sex Pistols would have got better sound recorded in my bedroom on my 4-track than in their "professional studio-recordings".

5. I'd rather be a "cheap punk label" releasing lots of interesting music, than some guy releasing one "pro-recording" of a catchy song on a single CD once a year.

Get in the ring!
 
Bruce,

He's right. There is a market for 7" vinyl releases here in the states too. On a very underground level, I know a few people who have put out vinyl releases of local/regional bands and done pretty well. Split 7's are very popular for underground bands.

On a somewhat more high profile/underground level, its pretty popular for national bands on indie labels to release 7's between records. They become something of rare collectors things for fans. Lots of alternate takes and stuff that didn't fit on the record. kind of like both sides of the album are B-sides.

Your point is not altogether lost, though. I'm sure I could do a short run of cd-r's at home, complete with artwork for the price I'd pay to print and press a vinyl release these days. And all the kiddies who would buy it will have cd players. The same may not be true for vinyl. There are certainly other advantages to going to CD route, but 7" vinyl is a cultural thing that has its place.
 
Questfan, what you are telling us makes more sense to me now, thanks. I agree with nice raw (and live) recordings, but I do not agree with bad recordings, I am now quite interested to hear what you have produced so far...
 
CD-R is much cheaper than vinyl. And I think CD-R is very good for bands. It's a very good way to get your songs out there, just like mp3. But still, I don't buy so many CD-R releases from bands, I'd rather buy a real CD (stupid me) or a vinyl release from some underground band.
 
Aside from the process of creating them (glass master versus laser) I'd love to hear some of your perceived differences between CD and CDR. I don't get it.
 
Like I said, it's stupid. But I personally tend to buy CD instead of CDR. But it's probably because of all the not-so-good bands who release CDR-demoes where I live. I can not hear any difference in sound between a CD and CDR, so it's just that I'm used to hearing crappy music from crappy bands on CDR (but not always).

And since it's more expencive to produce a CD, I think bands are more carefull with what songs they put on an expencive production, compared with CDR where they just present a bunch of songs.

At the end of the day: it's the MUSIC that counts, not if it's CD, CDR, MINIDISC, MP3 or VINYL. But still, I prefer vinyl.
 
Differences in CD, CD-R, vinyl

One interesting thing to note about CD-R and CD media: At extremely cold temperatures, the coating on a CD-R seems to change viscosity, disallowing my car CD player's laser to read it. I have never had this problem with ANY CDs. Come to think of it, I haven't experienced that problem with any of my vinyl records, either. Anyway.

I know some of you professionals who make it yr biz to know this shit can critique my analysis, and as it seems to go around here, rip it apart, but recently I found a CD from '86 I believe -- Steve Winwood -- that has been stored since...um...'86 I believe (it was Steve Winwood). Though stored like any piece of music, it now doesn't play at all, even with no visible marks on the surface. Do CDs deteriorate that rapidly? Isn't therefore vinyl a more static medium to store information? Wouldn't you rather store your whatever-fi on something that might outlive you?

I applaud those who make 7" records just as loudly as I applaud those who make paper-page leather-bound books rather tha e-books. The medium is different, and so is the experience in decoding the information held therein. Most of us non-engineer non-gear-heads look at music as more of an aesthetic endeavor; questions of low-fi vs. high-fi take second billing to questions of the over-all appreciation of listening to the record/reading the book/et cetera. I've got a shitload of CDs. I've got a shitload of vinyl. I listen to both whenever it suits me. But to have to read postings where a professional audio engineer (Who I have to assume once liked music enough to get into the profession) decides that not only he but all the rest of us (with whom he seems rather unhappy to share his world) should give up our 7" because there's no market...Jesus. Now I know how Bush got elected. Viva the market, fuck the music? You go, Bruce!
 
Hey C. Lewis...

Read my 1200+ other posts (100+ as Blue Bear Sound, and 1200 or so as BVALERIA) and you'll see how much of a crock of shit that was you just aimed in my direction.

I happen to listen to both CDs and vinyl myself... I really don't understand your point (if there is one) at all!

Bruce
 
This post has lost its direction, so I will help it along a bit on the wrong road.

I have many CD's, and for a long time, and I drink alot and spill beer and you know where this is going, and I have never had any CD cock out on me ever. We also have vinals by the dozens at my parents house and the sound difference is extreme. The constant scratching of a needle on flimsey plastic does not help either to the longevity of vinal now does it. Further more, making something public, why then in a medium that nowadays is not really supported by the masses. I mean how many ppl have turntables and how many ppl have cd players?!?!?!.
 
Not to mention...

C. Lewis said:
But to have to read postings where a professional audio engineer (Who I have to assume once liked music enough to get into the profession) decides that not only he but all the rest of us (with whom he seems rather unhappy to share his world) should give up our 7" because there's no market...Jesus.
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No one's forcing you or anyone else to read them - if you don't like my posts, DON'T READ 'EM! :rolleyes:

And I've done plenty of sharing here....... what's your fuckin' problem???

Bruce
 
I couldn't care less for the masses. 99% of the bands that top the charts bores me very much. What I'm doing is not for the masses. Not that much people have turntables, even less people would like to listen to the stuff my record company releases. We do not release music for the masses. Our music captures something that never is to be found in the charts. It seems to me that the normal standards for what "a good recording" should sound like is the oposite of what I dig. Therefore, I do everything the way I think is the most interesting, fun and adventurous. A vinyl release is often a cooler package than CD releases, and this gives me a better listening experience.

As for the vinyl vs. CD conflict. I have just as much CDs as vinyl records, and on my stereo the sound is what normal people would call "better" when I play CDs. I find it hard to explain why, but I still feel that...

...like the vocalist in Jane's Addiction said: "Janet Jackson just gives you letters, and she calls that a salat. While I give you all the right ingredients." (that is almost what he said, anyway)

Vinyl gives you more pleasure than CD.
 
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