vf80 Scrubbing

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Hi all, here's my question... What is the Digital Wave Scrubbing? How do I use it? Does it have anything to do with removing noise? (I seem to get lots, and after reading a recent post, I think I'll invest in a mic pre)

Anyway - scrubbing? Can anybody out there help me?

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I have a VF80 and when the Wave Form Scrub key is pressed, you can precisely find and set edit points by using the jog wheel. This works similar to old tape machines where you would grab each reel and "scrub" the tape back and forth to hear precisely where you wanted to make an edit cut.

After you hit the Wave Form Scrub key, the machine will ask you which track... You select a track, and a wave form display will appear, so you can visually as well as aurally discern proper edit points.

After these point are set, you hit the exit/no button, then hit the track edit button... Select the track you are editing. Then the Copy, Erase, Move menu will appear in the display. If you choose one of these, you'll see the elapsed time numbers correspond exactly to what you have selected during the "scrub" phase.

That's one way to do an edit. There are others, but that's how I do it.

Try it on a simple voice track. It's pretty straight forward.

Also, you should not be getting much, if any noise. What kind of noise is it?
 
hey thanks for the help there

as to what kind of noise? well when i'm micing anything really, just a general sort of hissing which is pretty annoying. like i said i've got a shure sm57 and sm58, which go direct into the vf80...

i'm thinking maybe a mic pre would help? i don't really know anything about them or how much they cost (in euros)

would this eliminate the hissing?
 
LukeZen said:
hey thanks for the help there

as to what kind of noise? well when i'm micing anything really, just a general sort of hissing which is pretty annoying. like i said i've got a shure sm57 and sm58, which go direct into the vf80...

i'm thinking maybe a mic pre would help? i don't really know anything about them or how much they cost (in euros)

would this eliminate the hissing?
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OK, well the SM57/58's great as they are, need a lot of boost to get a good signal. Are you getting high enough record levels from them? If not, when you do a mix later and boost after the fact, you'll be increasing noise as well as sound.

I would get a Studio Projects VTB1 preamp (US$120.00). VERY quiet, with lots of gain. Then you turn the pre's in the VF80 all the way down... use the output on the VTB1 to set levels. The SM57/58 are still noisier than some condensors, but I think you'll see an improvement.
 
billisa said:
OK, well the SM57/58's great as they are, need a lot of boost to get a good signal. Are you getting high enough record levels from them? If not, when you do a mix later and boost after the fact, you'll be increasing noise as well as sound.

I would get a Studio Projects VTB1 preamp (US$120.00). VERY quiet, with lots of gain. Then you turn the pre's in the VF80 all the way down... use the output on the VTB1 to set levels. The SM57/58 are still noisier than some condensors, but I think you'll see an improvement.
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I've just checked it out online, I'm hearing lots of good things about it. I've read on a few pages how it's great for micing vocals, I guess I want to know if it's just as good for micing acoustic guitar?

Not really knowing how any of this works, will I need anything other than the equipment I've got now to use the VTB1? Or is it really much simpler than I'm imagining. I guess I need to know if it'll work with Mic->Vtb1->foxtexVf80.

Sounds like a great product though, I'm definitely looking into getting one. Any reliable sites for ordering online that can deliver internationally? I've never bought anything from the internet before.

Thanks for all the help so far
 
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Yes, it's that simple. Mic to VTB1 to VF80. With an SM57/8 don't turn on the phantom power.

First, make your connections. Arm the track, push the Master and the armed Track faders up to the 0db mark, then turn your trim on the VF80 all the way down (counterclockwise). Using the VTB1's meter set on input, by turning up the gain, have your level running into the +4db zone. Then, using the output pot, have your level on the VF80 hitting just at or below the top line... No Peaking. It's that easy. On the VTB1 you have the option of dialing in tube drive. If the tube pot is set at SS, then no tube circuitry is involved. But as you rotate that pot, you dial in more and more tube "warmth". At some point you'll start noticing some distortion via the tube, but that's something some people want to be able to add, particularly to electric guitar.

It's up to you. You can run your acoustic or electric through the VTB1, or keyboard, or whatever. If you REALLY want quiet, run a Studio Projects B1 mic through the VTB1 preamp. VERY quiet. No be careful because as you get less hiss you're going to notice other background noise! Like somebody's car running next door, etc. There are ways around this...
 
I think Digital Village in the UK carries Studio Projects. I got mine from 8th street music in the US (on-line). I have no problem with on-line ordering. Just make sure they'll ship to where you are, plus knopw the cost, etc...
 
Hey thanks for all your help! Looks like the thing to get, can't wait til I've actually got one in my hands.
 
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