Vegas Video Letting Me Down!

[drstawl]

I've had this prog for a while and have used it with no problem in conjunction with the Delta 1010. But I generally do MIDI stuff and import my tracks from a pre with a digital out, two at a time @ 24/96. Both VV3 and SF 6 have no problem recognizing and dealing with 24 bit files.

Today I set up a test with just six mics to see if it could multitrack as advertised at 24 bits using the analog ins on the Delta. Nope.


Actually- it won't even record ONE mic at 24 bits in mono.

That definitely sucks!

Certainly not a PC resource problem- my system barely blinks doing such minimal tasks.

I'm running the direct outs on my mixer to the analog inputs on the Delta. The signal sounds fine monitored from the mixer.
I also tried downloading the latest build of VV3 (version 3.0c build 138) and it didn't help. I tried changing the DMA buffer settings on the Delta. No help. The Delta timing is set to the Internal Xtal.

The tracks are recognizable but have a horrific motorboating sound.

No problem doing this with the version of Logic Audio that came with the Delta (but I HATE that Chinese Puzzle interface; I just happened to stumble upon how to record audio and can't actually duplicate the experiment- I need to feel confident about ALL of the variables before I try to record) and also no problem when I use VV3 at 16 bit resolution. If I just wanted 16 bits I would've bought a used Layla!!

 

[mixmkr]

If I just wanted 16 bits I would've bought a used Layla!!

the old ones were/are 20 bit. I've got one btw, and it is a fantastic sound card. I feel no need to jump on the 24 bit bandwagon at this point. That isn't the weak point in my recordings anywayzzz.

 

[drstawl]

yeah- I also have a GINA 20. But the resolution of the files you end up with are 16 bits. So I call it a 16 bit card. A very nice 16 bit card, but a 16 bit card.

The Delta/Vegas combo does multitrack at 16 bit resolution. I'm just miffed that they left out that little bit of information regarding the ability to RECORD at 24 bits.

 

[Track Rat]

Doc, I've tracked into Vegas at 24 bits thru the MOTU with no problems. And I mix thru an analog desk so I'm playing back thru the MOTU on up to 24 discrete tracks. Hmmm...

 

[Brad]

Doc,

Did you change the 'audio properties' in the Vegas mixer window to 24bit?

Probably too simple of an idea, but I thought I'd try...

 

[drstawl]

>Did you change the 'audio properties' in the Vegas mixer window to 24bit?

If you mean the audio tab of the "Project Properties" Dialog box- yes, it's set to 24 bits. And the recordings do indeed end up being 24 bits when set that way in this dialog box, they're just mangled. Same thing happens in Sound Forge 6 when recording one or two tracks at 24 bits.

>Doc, I've tracked into Vegas at 24 bits thru the MOTU with no problems

I've tracked at 24 bits via the digital inputs into Vegas and Sound Forge using the Delta, but ran into this problem when I tried to record an analog input at 24 bit resolution.

Since Logic uses an ASIO driver and Sound Forge does not I'm led to the conclusion that Delta's WDM drivers don't work at 24 bits.

Keep the comments coming: that conclusion seems too ridiculous to accept without a fight.

 

[rodvonbon]

hey drstawl,

i have a delta 1010 and a delta 44, i also use vv3 for all of my multitrack recordings.

I just checked the last project i recorded and I did 12 tracks live in at 88,200 hz , 24 bit mono.

Im not sure what you mean when you said the sound was mangeled.

the only problem I have is playing back the tracks (it's a little taxing on my comp) when i add effects.

I really cant hear the diffrence between 16 and 24 bit with the type of music i do, but i have done tests recording at diffrent bit depths.
The way i can tell vv3 is recording in at 24 bit is that even after recording at 24, i can switch the project to 16 bit and right click on any track and check it in the track properties under the media tab.

im not sure how this helps yer problem, but i hope its related to what yer saying

later,
rod

 

[drstawl]

>I just checked the last project i recorded and I did 12 tracks live in at 88,200 hz , 24 bit mono

So these 12 tracks were recorded simultaneously using the analog inputs from the 8 on the 1010 and the 4 on the 44?

That's encouraging. But what O/S are you using? The reason I ask is you say this "taxes" your system, which leads me to believe you are using Win 98Se on some old dog.

No taxing here using XP on a P4. It doesn't even notice I'm doing anything.

Thanks for your input in any case.

It looks like I'll be using Logic Audio and its ASIO tracking and then importing these .wav files into Vegas for mixdown. I tried that and it works but I'd much rather make Vegas do the whole deal because the GUI is Miles Ahead of the Competition.

 

[rodvonbon]

Yeah,

I run 8 analog into the 1010 and 4 analog in into the 44 from the channel outs of my mix board.

My O/S is windows ME and the PC is an 850 mhz PIII.
What i mean by "it taxes my system" is when i playback 19 or 20 tracks with reverb and shit on vocal and backup tracks the audio starts to sssttttttuuuutttteeerrr .If i play all the tracks dry it has no problem. Some day i will get a dedicated PC for recording, but for now this old dog is kind of a gamming, internet ,recording work horse

I feel for you though, having to track and mix in seeperate programs. I have to do that with midi. I record in, separate v-drum tracks and convert to audio in Cubase and then open it up in Vegas it's a pain.

later,
rod