V-Drums and home recordings

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Any advice from someone who's experimented with roland v-drums and and the best way to connect them to a BR-1180 for recording? ...I have used the the 1/4" mono jack with different mic's in the programmed bank but the drum's sounds seems to loose all it's muscle after the tracks are all bounced? Sub mix thing didn't work too well. Any advice will help at this point.
 
The only way I can get v-drums to sound okay is to use sparate tracks. Like, 1 for kick, 2 for snare, 3 for toms and 4 for cymbals/high-hat... Maybe check your ambience and eq's and stuff? Are you using the master-out for recording?
 
Gettting better

I am using the master out (mono), I"m now double tracking the drums and it's helping a bit. I just hate using up another track because I can't hear anything when I use my v-tracks for playback...I know I need some serious tutoring with this thing. I still have to complain about this the Matering Tool Kit yet with not Tools.
 
Dumby said:
Any advice from someone who's experimented with roland v-drums and and the best way to connect them to a BR-1180 for recording? ...I have used the the 1/4" mono jack with different mic's in the programmed bank but the drum's sounds seems to loose all it's muscle after the tracks are all bounced? Sub mix thing didn't work too well. Any advice will help at this point.
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i have a br-1180 and i HAD a set of those dts-extreme drums ..and i couldnt find a way to have it NOT sound like ass ..maybe with 5 or 6 hours of scrolling through all the parameters and tweaking each sound before-hand ..i started to do that ...but it sorta took away all the fun of playing for me ..it was like studying for a test for 5 hours each time i wanted to play ..
 
I had the same problem. Sounded much better after I shut off the reverb on the Yamaha drum brain, but then I got an old Roland R-8M and hooked it to the MIDI out and the old 1989 drum module sounded better than the Yamaha to record with. Especially recording in mono. The hi-hats on the R8-M are great and it has 8 outs to set to any thing you want. I still use the Yamaha for snare sounds and the crash.
 
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I had the same problem. Sounded much better after I shut off the reverb on the Yamaha drum brain, but then I got an old Roland R-8M and hooked it to the MIDI out and the old 1989 drum module sounded better than the Yamaha to record with. Especially recording in mono. The hi-hats on the R8-M are great and it has 8 outs to set to any thing you want. I still use the Yamaha for snare sounds and the crash.
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One thing about the R8 series, is that it basically sounds like a dead/unprocessed drum set.
I did some tracks for one of my friends, and to this day, they do not believe that I didn't actually play the parts on the song. They won't accept that it's a machine.

I worked up alternate patterns to put in it, so that it didn't play the exact same thing every single measure of verse, and because it is "inconsistent" that's why they don't believe it's a machine. (I did overdub a couple of real Crashes on the audio tracks, but that was it.)


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When recording V-Drums via either mono or stereo you have to be very selective rearding processing. You almost have to record as dry as possible to avoid the drums sounding too muddy. Seperate outs (is you have the freedom of extra ins & outs can produce better results.

Regarding the R8 I always thought that was one of the more realistic sounding drum machines. I never owned one but I had one in the studio when I was working on a project for a bass player/song writer and I spent a fair amount of time working with the R8 - sound of the best electronic drum tracks I've gotten (with only stereo outs) - and I've used alot of various e-drums.
 
Will the quality be that much higher you think using a TD20 from a 12? I"m using the TD3 brain right now and I like it for it's simplicity.
 
The 12 and the 20 use all the same samples and soundchips. The 20 has a LOT more studio tweaking options to it though. A reverb (rather than just ambience) mic placement modeling (Inside the drum, top skin, bottom skin, near, far, whatever) and a lot more options for EQ and compression. It's also got outputs for most (if not all) of the seperate pads, rather than the master out that the 12 has.

Basicly, the two have the same basic sounds, but the 20's flexibility as a studio tool makes it a hell of a lot better for recording.
 
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