Urgent help needed, free naked pix of Bea Arthur for helpers

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OK, I lied about Bea Arthur, I only have pix of Bea in a thong:D

This stereo thing is driving me nuts. I am working on some good stuff for a home CD, and I need to get this done once and for all.

Setup:

Roland and Alesis Synths to Spirit F1 mixer to Darla 24 soundcard.
I am using the aux sends on the mixer to go to the soundcard, and the main outputs to the receiver. Everything is panned hard left and right. Everything seems cool, I am dumb, but not totally dumb.

When I hear the keyboards, they sound great in stereo. I have many far-panning patches, nice left and right imaging. When I record in SONAR, everything seems mono, regardless of recording in stereo or two mono tracks panned L and R. Very confusing, I am frightened.

I dont get it. I have written and recorded a bunch of stuff, and I need to re-record all the midi, because all the stereo effects arent happening.


Problem 2:

I am running out of Hard drive space. I am poor, cant afford anything right now. When I delete tracks, what do I do next?
Do I do " Clean Audio Disk?" I think I did that in the past.

Problem 3:

My Alesis amp is broke, so I am using a crap Sony Receiver until I get cash. It has a horrible noisy humming that is unbearable. I think it need to be "grounded", but I am not sure how. What kind of wire should I use, and what should I ground it to?


Now that I am getting serious, I never realized what I am missing with this stereo problem. I need held, I need loved.:o
 
Roland and Alesis Synths to Spirit F1 mixer to Darla 24 soundcard.
I am using the aux sends on the mixer to go to the soundcard
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Hmmm.. the Aux sends on my Behringer mixer are stereo TRS jacks. Do you have a stereo TRS plug going to two inputs on the Darla (I'm assuming that they are mono inputs)? That would explain it. Only one signal, the sum of the signals from the two sides of the stereo aux out, would be getting to the Darla that way. A stereo track would just carry identical copies of the same signal on both sides.

I am running out of Hard drive space. I am poor, cant afford anything right now. When I delete tracks, what do I do next? Do I do " Clean Audio Disk?" I think I did that in the past.
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Clean Audio Disk is for cleaning up orphaned audio files. It won't delete any audio that it has a current project file for. You need to delete the project files first (BACK THEM UP, of course, unless you are totally sure you dunna want 'em), then run Clean Audio Disk.
 
maybe you have a different mixer, my behringer (2004A) has mono aux sends. that is also how i usually send to my soundcard, and with no stereo problems.
 
When I hear the keyboards, they sound great in stereo. I have many far-panning patches, nice left and right imaging. When I record in SONAR, everything seems mono, regardless of recording in stereo or two mono tracks panned L and R.
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Are you recording midi or audio?
If you are recording midi I can't think of any explanation as your keyboard should respond the same as if it were manually being played.

When you are recording the sound is coming from the keyboard but on playback the sound you are hearing is from the recorded track.
If your soundcards ins are not panned hard L/R in the mixer section it will in effect be a summed mono track even if it's a "stereo" track unless you record to two seperate tracks which could be panned and seperated..
 
You haven't accidentally pressed the mono-button?

Have you tried to record directly to the soundcard? Does it sound the same?


Have you set the aux'es to 'Pre-Fader'? If you have, you could do all the panning you want to (and it'll sound great), but it still will sound mono from the aux'es... Switch to post-fader...


I'm out of ideas (for now).... You got a nice mixer there, like mine.:D
 
David,
I had this problem once before...I had a hard time figuring out why.....

Seems my plug adapter had gone from stereo to mono (broken wire inside).....once I replaced it...all was well...

This may not be your issue but certainly check the integrity of your IO's....it might be your cheap and easy fix...

Take it easy man,
Joe:D
 
I am running out of Hard drive space. I am poor, cant afford anything right now. When I delete tracks, what do I do next?
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Yes. However, I like to use Cakewalk Audio Finder for this as it shows how the files are connected to the projects and you are certain you don't delete anything you need....
 
YES! USA! USA!


Have you set the aux'es to 'Pre-Fader'? If you have, you could do all the panning you want to (and it'll sound great), but it still will sound mono from the aux'es... Switch to post-fader...
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Thank you Thank you, That was the problem.

Now I have a LOT of midi stuff to re-record, but it is going to sound SO much better. Yippee!
 
Great! I thought that could be the problem, I did the same thing when I recorded a live performance. Goddamm I was mad when I tried to mix the bastard... :mad:


Good luck with the midi re-recording! :)
 
Re: Re: Urgent help needed, free naked pix of Bea Arthur for helpers

moskus said:
Ok, let me see that picture now... :D
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NO!. That is worse than looking at the Console View. You will definitely go blind.

Glad you got your problem fixed, David. I've been trying to tell everyone that sometimes moskus knows what he is talking about. (The trick is to figure out which times.) :D
 
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moskus said:
Ok, let me see that picture now... :D
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Do you know who Bea Arthur is? She is probably not known widely outside the states. She had a show called Maude.
 
I didn't get the part about the Beringer aux send being stereo.
Is that like aux-1 comes out 'left' and aux-2 comes out 'right', but out of the same jack? Or a single knob on of the 'stereo' channels?
Wayne
 
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DavidK said:
Do you know who Bea Arthur is? She is probably not known widely outside the states. She had a show called Maude.
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She is that bad, huh? Ok, show me something else... I WANT MY REWARD! :D

Originally posted by dachay2tnr
NO!. That is worse than looking at the Console View. You will definitely go blind.
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But the Console View is so beautiful... everything must be worse than the console... :D


Originally posted by mixit
Is that like aux-1 comes out 'left' and aux-2 comes out 'right', but out of the same jack? Or a single knob on of the 'stereo' channels?
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I don't know Behringer 'mixers', but I would think that both aux'es are stereo, i.e. if you send a stereosignal to the aux, it would output a stereosignal... But as I said, I don't know...

Originally posted by AlChuck
Bea Arthur was probably a babe in the 40's.
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[Homer Simpson voice:] Mmmmmm.... Bea Arthur.....
 
mixsit said:
I didn't get the part about the Beringer aux send being stereo.
Is that like aux-1 comes out 'left' and aux-2 comes out 'right', but out of the same jack? Or a single knob on of the 'stereo' channels?
Wayne
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...I don't think so. No, I don't have both Behringer nor Spirit Folio as well... Once I got the Folio, but it was loooong ago, couldn't recall the aux set. Though now I got Mackie 1202 and Phonic MM1202. Most of small mixer I knew has only mono send, and stereo return. So it goes mono aux 1, and mono aux 2. Like I mentioned in another thread, be very carefull on routing the signal. If you route stereo signal to aux 1 and 2, that doesn't mean you send the signal left to aux 1 and right to aux 2. Simply it will send both signal L & R to both aux 1 & 2. That's why I suggested route them to different mono channel on your mixer. Say L to ch. 1 , and R to ch. 2. Open the aux send 1 on ch.1, close aux 2. Open the aux send 2 on ch.2, close aux 1. Aux 1 goes to L input of sound Card, and aux 2 goes to R input... there you go... L & R recorded separatelly...
 
DavidK said:
Problem 2:

I am running out of Hard drive space. I am poor, cant afford anything right now. When I delete tracks, what do I do next?
Do I do " Clean Audio Disk?" I think I did that in the past.
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...Well, you can use Cakewalk Audio Finder to see what's left, orphaned, or unnecessary wave data to projects, and delete 'em manualy safe.

Problem 3:

My Alesis amp is broke, so I am using a crap Sony Receiver until I get cash. It has a horrible noisy humming that is unbearable. I think it need to be "grounded", but I am not sure how. What kind of wire should I use, and what should I ground it to?
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I think -in simple terms- you can use regular single cable wired to the "ground" of the Sony Receiver, and to your PC's body cassing...

James
 
I didn't get the part about the Beringer aux send being stereo.
Is that like aux-1 comes out 'left' and aux-2 comes out 'right', but out of the same jack? Or a single knob on of the 'stereo' channels?
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Turns out I was wrong, I have a TRS plug in one of my aux sends on the Behringer (Eurorack 1604A) going to the inputs of my old Alesis Quadraverb (which I hooked up to hear 'verb on the monitored inputs while tracking, but since doing that I've never used it). So I'm getting two copies of the same mono signal out of that jack.

But mixsit, there are such things as as stereo jacks, and they are very common. The headphone jacks on mixers, Walkmen, stereos -- almost anything -- are single stereo jacks that take a stero plug. The acronym TRS means tip-ring-sleeve, meaning that there are three separate connections on the plug. TRS plugs and jacks are also used as mono balanced connections -- in this application two copies of the same signal are sent out, one out of phase with the other. In this manner any additional noise that gets picked up by the cables gets cancelled out when the two signals are received and flipped around.
 
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