Tube Overheads!

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A very 251ish, C12is, 414ish tube mic is the new Peluso 22 251. I posted a bit on it here. There's a studio owner in LA who has C12's and 251's in his mic cab who is now using the Peluso 22 251's as drum OH's. They're parked on the stands. He's says they sounds like what he would expect from a vintage 251. And he'd rather use some less expensive mics than have to pull his expensive mics out and put them high up on stands every time he wants to mic drums.

I've always wondered how the Peluso's sound. I think when I get the cash I may have to grab a 47 or 251. I might build a C12 copy from a schematic I have. I'm having a dickens of a time finding 30 megaohm resistors, though.
 
Great info - thanks Phil! One more stupid question and I promise I'll...ask more. :) Have you used a Studio Projects T3? How does it stack up against the modded MXL 2001? I've had my eye out for a T3 for a while, but it sounds like the mod might smoke even that. Thanks again!
 
I haven't used the SP T3, so I really can't give an informed opinion on that one. I would however say that the Studio Projects mics are well respected. Some of the differences are the price, versatility and components.

The Royer mod uses a miniature 5840 tube, whereas the T3 claims to use a 6072 tube. These are rare and the Apex 460 I bought claimed to use this tube, but it was a 12AX7 instead. The mini tubes in some ways have a fatter sound. The 6072 was used in the AKG C12. It's a very clear sound.

The Royer is cardiod only. The T3 is multipattern like my Apex. (boy would I like to see if the guts are the same. If they are it would make my Nady 1150 all the more tasty) Multipattern is more versatile.

The cost of the Royer mod (if you make it yourself) is about $100 for the mic, which you already have, and about $150 for the parts.

You have to weigh it out yourself. Personally, I would rather convert the 2001 since its probably just a paperweight unmodded anyway. Later on, get the T3.
 
Good points across the board. According to Mojave's site they're not selling the boards by themselves any more. Any chance you've seen or have a JPG or something similar of the board layouts? I can probably guesstimate it from the article, but something more concrete would probably prove to be quite helpful.
 
Absotivley Posilutley!! Sure, I got a jpg 'er 2 for my boards.

I word of caution though! I wasn't the most accurate when I laid them out. The power supply board is fine, but the mic board only works with one screw. And you may have to put electrical tape along the opposite frame post to keep one trace from shorting it. Not that it will! It's just a precaution. The best way to do the board is if you have a laser printer and an iron, but I won't go into detail unless you have these. If not, just draw the same pattern on the copper board with an etch marker (do a couple of layers to get the ink THICK) and then etch it with solution and drill it. you don't have to be real neat and it's quicker this way.

Also, I make no guarantees if you do it wrong. I'll try, however to give you all the documentation I can.

PM me with your email address and I'll send them.
 
*If* I do it wrong? Hell, I've already dialed 9-1 and I've got my finger on the 1 button, and I don't even have all the parts yet. :) I'll happily take all the advice and information you're willing to give, with no other expectations. I'm dying to hear what this sucker sounds like. If an MXL2001 can be turned into a top-notch mic, the whole world's a better place, innit?
 
Success!!! It really didn't take all that long to do the actual work of modding the mic - I've just been busy with other things. :o/ I haven't ordered the Jensen transformer yet - I figured I could use the existing transformer in the MXL to pump out audio. And pump out audio it does. Very very cool. Time permitting I'll upload some pictures and audio samples. w00t!
 
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