Trying to get on the R&B side of things...

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Umm... yeah. I won't pretend I know how to do an R&B beat either but... this sounds like a mid 80's type of synth-melody, man. Definitely not on par with what's hot right now. :o
 
On the dynamic's of an R&B song, usually they have more dynamic's and more drops in the beat. Also instruments is somewhat the same, but not. (try and sing R&B to Missy Elliot type beats). Soothing sounds are usually used to, like piano's, most strings, organs, some brass, some percussions etc. R&B tends to let a song "breathe" more in term of dynamic's, and kicks are not as dominate as hip hop/rap unless your talking about an R&B/rap mixture. Anyways, I'm no 'expert' in making R&B tracks, but those are the very basics. If you envision a singer, they do not "flow on point", it's not repetitive in terms of octaves & the overall vocals. (not that all rappers are like this). Instead of making a beat, that's for hip hop, which usually doesn't have any if at all, harmonics's, you would be creating a beat that can have a little something for the rest of the sung harmonics. Don't know if I'm explaining it enough, or right for that matter. Of course different tracks require different things, and different artists sing different, but they can be used as guidelines. Of course, you don't want a 200bpm tempo for a R&B track, cause then it becomes a pop track lol, or techno haha. Change the beat up quite frequently because of how the singer sings. A lot of the songs out there, when a singer is about to hold a key, they drop the beat, and kick it back in in a second if you know what I mean... I would probably start with listening to the artist sing on other tracks, before actually lacing anything, and also probably melodies before drums.

Watch the effects much, don't use compression as much, or you'll smash the dynamics
 
OOoooh ok I "kinda" gettin it...Do you know what could possibly be changed in the above beat to give it a NOW feel (as to what change was suggesting)?
 
ill peep it when i get to the crib..... but i can say this when i do rnb i normally go with a smooth piano melody and take it from there.... then again my production skillz aint quite up to par so yea take it for what its worth........ lol im a writter first
 
lol I'll also have to listen to it later on during the day, I'm still at work. Probably give me 2 hours or so man, I'm leaving at 1pm. it's 11:30am right now.
 
I'm not trying to talk shit, but you're melody sounds almost like something in Zelda or something like that. (BTW we been trying to get some old school nintendo tracks together, all 8 bit, so really I did love the beat). For R&b, I would try more "real" sounding stuff, like Mindset said. More "real" drums, piano, and maybe a slow bass with less notes....maybe let the note hold out for a measure or a half of measure before changing it. Let the singer make the melody and get some piano around it to accent. R&b beats (like Mindset was getting at) are more about playing with the singer.
 
Thanx fam...I appreciate yall tellin it like it is and not treating me like a little azz boi
 
Mindset said:
On the dynamic's of an R&B song, usually they have more dynamic's and more drops in the beat. Also instruments is somewhat the same, but not. (try and sing R&B to Missy Elliot type beats). Soothing sounds are usually used to, like piano's, most strings, organs, some brass, some percussions etc. R&B tends to let a song "breathe" more in term of dynamic's, and kicks are not as dominate as hip hop/rap unless your talking about an R&B/rap mixture. Anyways, I'm no 'expert' in making R&B tracks, but those are the very basics. If you envision a singer, they do not "flow on point", it's not repetitive in terms of octaves & the overall vocals. (not that all rappers are like this). Instead of making a beat, that's for hip hop, which usually doesn't have any if at all, harmonics's, you would be creating a beat that can have a little something for the rest of the sung harmonics. Don't know if I'm explaining it enough, or right for that matter. Of course different tracks require different things, and different artists sing different, but they can be used as guidelines. Of course, you don't want a 200bpm tempo for a R&B track, cause then it becomes a pop track lol, or techno haha. Change the beat up quite frequently because of how the singer sings. A lot of the songs out there, when a singer is about to hold a key, they drop the beat, and kick it back in in a second if you know what I mean... I would probably start with listening to the artist sing on other tracks, before actually lacing anything, and also probably melodies before drums.

Watch the effects much, don't use compression as much, or you'll smash the dynamics


great information...

if she got the lyrics try and go over it your head and make the beat like you think it should go..or have her sing the verses and go from there..i know the track is nice i say keep your tempo around 65-90 for slow R&B and not more then 100 for Fast Club RA&..well that my opinon anyway..
 
bknot1 said:
great information...

if she got the lyrics try and go over it your head and make the beat like you think it should go..or have her sing the verses and go from there..i know the track is nice i say keep your tempo around 65-90 for slow R&B and not more then 100 for Fast Club RA&..well that my opinon anyway..
Thanx Mr. Bk but I believe everyone concured that this beat is threw so Im throwing this out and starting fresh you feel me; Im going to use all of yalls ideas
 
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