Truly Broke And In Need Of A Mic

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Whats up, I have to say that I am reading some of the wonderful things on here bout the the different mics that can be used. The thing I need help on is this, I am recording hip hop songs straight into my computer, and I need a mic that can give me a full clear sound. I am not looking to record any instruments, or even singing just lyrics. I am interested in a cheap condenssor mic, that I can start off, then move on to bigger and better mics down the road. If some one could recomend an ok sounding condenssor under 150 for recording male vocals with no singing, that would be great. Also i need to know whats up with mixers and pre amps and all that, and what do I need so i can hook the mic up right into my soundcard and start recording as soon as possible.

thanks
WIZZLE
 
You will need a preamp if you don't have one already, so what I would do with your budget, is get one of those Studio Projects B-1 mics (I haven't used one, but, from what I hear, they're probably the best sub-$100 condensor mic available) and an M-Audio Audio Buddy Preamp. Together they'll run you about $160 from 8thstreet.com.
 
that's what i'd say too. you really don't need a mixer though.
 
I've got a B1, and I think it should give you decent results for rap vocals. It's not my kind of music, though. The B1 sounds pretty robust, unhyped, so it's probably not the best vocal mic for a soft ballad, but I think that's exactly what you want for rap. You'll need a pop screen, though. The included foam windscreen won't make you happy.
 
Just to make sure: I was talking about the Studio Projects B1. There is also a Behringer B1, which is also a condenser mic and is almost the same price. It sounds very different, though, and I don't think it would fit your needs soundwise. So don't let yourself be confused when you go to a store: it's the Studio Projects B1.
 
Marshall MXLv67.....

Sam Ash has them for $119



Marshall MXL2003

ZZounds has them for $149 with shockmount.....
 
ok i think i am getting this

I was reading up on those mics yesterday, and I will probably go with the marshall, and try to get a nice priced pre amp. I notice people talk about the Shure 57 alot, I have seen a bunch of those cheap at my local Mars, are those good for vocals too, no live performing, just home recording?


WIZZLE
 
the sm57 is great for live vocals and is pretty common in home studios as a vocal mic...but with the surge of inexpensive condensors out there, their use as a vocal mic are probably fading.....

so, yes the sm57 is a good vocal mic, live or recording, especially with a reallynice preamp.....
 
what does it do

ok, i have been hearing stuff about either a pre amp or a mixer for plugging my mic into, whats the difference, what do they do and which one is better and for what purpose. I am thinking of getting two mics so i can record onto one track at the same time is that possible?
 
ok, what about this

I have been looking at some things and what I see that I might be able to work with is this...

pre amp- ART Tube MP Studio Microphone Preamp
OR
MAudio AudioBuddy Dual Microphone Preamp with Phantom Power and Direct Box


I have seen different things about these items in the forums, and also with a mic I am looking to use for a mic

Studio Projects B1 Studio Condenser Mic
OR
Marshall Electronics MXL2001P Condenser Microphone


for right now these are what i have heard about most around here for my budget, this is just something to give myself a start and then i will hopefully be like all of you wonderful addicted techheads and have all types of equipment. Let me know please which one of these is better.
 
I am telling you, do not get the marshall mxl2001p! It is for your own good! The 2003 is good, not the 2001. The only good thing about the 2001 is the free MXL603, but you can buy that separately for 70 bucks later. DO NOT GET THE 2001!!!
 
I have had great results with my Marshal MXL V93/2003. Good quality and only around $145. I also have the Studio Projects C-1 and it's quality is wonderful. I wish I could share more about preamps but I have a Presonus Blue Tube and an Aphex 107 and honestly can't say that I would recommend the Presonus either way. Maybe when I get more experience with it I'll like it more. Everyone I know with an audio buddy has been pleased. Just my thoughts. Good Luck to you.


Tyler
 
Re: what does it do

WIZZLE said:
ok, i have been hearing stuff about either a pre amp or a mixer for plugging my mic into, whats the difference, what do they do and which one is better and for what purpose. I am thinking of getting two mics so i can record onto one track at the same time is that possible?
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ummm 2 mics would be useless for you since your only doing vocals ..... you only need 1 .

Studio Projects B1? wtf is this..... i have never heard of this that don't even sound like a name

get like a shure sm58 it's a live vocal mic but works great for rap vocals for the price, or get a Behringer B1 .... .

I dunno any other mics under 150$ that are even worth looking at...

peace.
 
Don't listen to this guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about. A Studio Projects B-1 is way better than the behringer B-1, which I think is a rippoff of the marhsall mic that's one below the 2001, maybe that's the MXL1006? Anyway...Revone, I don't think he was wanting two vocal mics, but he would benefeit from this, because it would give him more variety. You don't have to use everything at once.

The Studioprojects C-1 is considerably better than the B-1, and I think the difference is like 30 bucks. Oops nevermind, it's like 130 bucks difference, but it would be something good to get in the future. Go with one of those two, or an MXL2003. You could go with an SM-58 or 57, but they're not condensors and won't be as crisp. The Rode NT1 is another mic a lot of people buy, but I think it's a bit harsh, so people don't really love them, they're just OKAY. I think NT2 and on are pretty good mics as far as rodes go, but they're more than 150 bucks.

I'm trying to remember what I've heard, and I'm pretty sure that the Art Tube MP people usually only good to use as a direct box for guitars, and I think the M-Audio Buddy would be a better purchase for you. So for 230 bucks you could get an MXL2003, and an M-Audio Buddy. I think those two would be what you would want, and you could sing into that mic too. So it gives you some "versatility" if that's what you want to call it.

And the other thing I was going to mention earlier, but forgot, when you plug in your new pre, make sure it goes into the Aux in on your soundcard or you will still have the piece of crap pre thats built in to the card in the mic input.

-The other Tyler
 
Studio Projects B1? wtf is this..... i have never heard of this that don't even sound like a name
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This guy sounds unbelievably bright. With his combination of mic knowledge and good grammar, there's no telling how far he'll go. I feel nothing short of blessed that he has decided to join us here on this message boad.
 
ok

I am pretty sure that audio buddy is where i want to go, and I think i will either be with the mxl 2003 or the studio b1. This is what i wanted to know, ok once i get the studio b1 run that thru my audio buddy, do i then run that straight into the Line In port on my soundcard or do I need something else to connect that with. Also how do i get my software to recognized i am not recording from the MIC IN and I am recording from the LINE IN?
 
ok, you just run straight into the line in. in your software, it will sometimes have a way to select it.

the other way you can do this is by DOUBLE clicking, (emphasing double), on the speaker icon in the system tray, or start-programs-accessories-entertainment-volume control. Once you have opened the full size volume control, it will have several faders. Click on the options button in the upper lefthand corner, and then go down to properties. Once this opens, select the recording mixer, and click ok. You will notice the mixer looks a little different now. Then click on the little tick box underneath the fader labeled - line in.

Sometimes you must do this, AND configure your software. If you can't get it to work, tell me what software you have, and I'll find out how to do it for you.
 
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