Time Warp in Sonar

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Hi Gang

I'm a Cubase user (please forgive me) but I just don't fancy upgrading to SX2, SX1 was a nightmare so I stayed with VST 5.1.

I must say Cakewalk offer very good value for money with all the features and extras you get with Sonar 3 Producer, you lot even get a Written Manual, (Steiny are that mean they only put a PDF on the CD) and the Cakewalk Support seems good so I'm joining you Guys.

I think Pinnacle/Steinberg are taking the Pee now, there's some features not working as they should in SX2 and I'm thinking here we go again another 12 months of Bug Fixing, it looks like another unfinished App.

Just a question if someone could answer please does Sonar have something like the Time Warp feature in SX2, where by you can Record a Track Midi or Audio without a Metronome or set Tempo and put the Tempo Changes in after using Hit Points ?

Thanks

Trev.
 
I'm not realy sure of what you after, but there's a feature in SONAR called Fit To Time, where you can stretch MIDI / Audio track to fit given point of time (up to tick or ms time format)...

Process --> Fit To Time :)

;)
Jaymz
 
My absolute favorite is Digital Performer's, where you can tap tempo during playback to record the tempo. Really helps the flow of certain pieces. Really wish Sonar had this...
 
Sklathill,

There is a funtion in Sonar that will allow this... if you have say a kick drum on one track, it will go through and pick up the transients and create a tempo map...

Jaymz, Moskus, anyone can you remember what the feature is called (I'll have to get another copy of the manual so I can have one at work!)?

Porter
 
What's Groove Quantize?

You can tap tempo in Sonar, I don't know if you can record that. You can set up tempo changes throughout the piece, and you can set up parts in your song where the tempo gradually speeds up. I don't know how to make audio tracks follow that except for maybe what Porter was hinting at. Your midi tracks should follow the new tempo changes, I think.

I thought groove quantize might be the thing that Porter was speaking of...never used it. I can't tell if James was correcting his first command, or saying that is what Porter was talking about.

However, this is all I know for sure...ain't much. Sorry.
-Kirstin
 
Extract timing

is what you use to pull a tempo off of the transients of an audio track that you use to get the midi track to play along with the audio. You can save that file to use later with groove quantize if you want. A little over my head at this point. But, it seems clear in the literature to me anyway, that this only works with midi tracks. You pull the info off of an audio track.

I'm still a damn newbie though, actually, so don't take much of what I say to heart. :)

-Kirstin
 
James, that's cool!

I just looked up the process>fit to improvisation, and I didn't ever know it existed.

And it is what Porter was talking about. Groove quantize is to make a track fit into an existing tempo map, if you will, and fit to improvisation is for when you want to derive a tempo map out of what you just played. Do I have that right?

Pretty neat stuff...do either one of those do what he initially asked?

I'm wondering what a hit point is...I can see exactly how this would work in the fit to improvisation function, is that like the reference track for the process? I'm kind of hijacking the thread to see if my understanding of this is correct?

And to show when I'm wrong. Ha ha.
-Kirstin
 
James Argo said:
Process --> Fit Improvisation :)
Click to expand...

Thanks Gang .......that will do the job........could anyone confirm that feature is in Sonar 3 Producer ?

I'm new to Cakewalk Apps, .....and can't wait to get it.

Cheers

Trev.
 
Extract timing and fit to improv. have been in CWPA from v7 and Sonar 1 and 2, so I would be surprised to see it missing from v3 - any edition. Seems to be part of the core midi engine.

Have fun

:) Q.
 
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