Time For A Fresh Set Of Ears I Think...

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Hi everyone,

I've been working on a new track since about the middle of last month and I kinda got the track written in the space of a week or so - of which it was time for me to get down to start adding in elements/tracking instruments/etc.

Last couple of days I've kinda lost my direction a bit - while I'm very pleased with the track as a whole - I'm not sure the mixing is up to scratch in places.

I haven't included the backing vox as of yet and I plan to include a few sweeps and crashes and stuff - so the track is entirely finished. But I'd like to add in the following elements as soon as I get some feedback and direction on the track as a whole first - which I do feel is a LONG way from reaching it's potential.

I like the track and am quite pleased with what I've acheived with it so far - just not sure it's sounding as good as it could be yet.

All feedback greatly appreciated in advance.



Thanks again.
 
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I'm pretty sure bumping is against the rules right? But surely it's better than me making a new topic ;)

Ah-haha I know you guys are busy peeps but if a couple of people could share their expertise in my topic I'd be forever grateful to be honest.

Cheers guys.
 
wow.

i like this. i think i would like just a little (tad) more of vocals.

i love the guitars. the drums.

i think i would be stylistic to cut the some of the audio short of its full duration.

you may be able to do that with a noise cutter that has a threshold a little too high.

that's just my opinion. but i like it when things are less "perfect" sounding

and you don't have to do it on every track..maybe just one track..
 
cello_pudding said:
wow.

i like this. i think i would like just a little (tad) more of vocals.

i love the guitars. the drums.

i think i would be stylistic to cut the some of the audio short of its full duration.

you may be able to do that with a noise cutter that has a threshold a little too high.

that's just my opinion. but i like it when things are less "perfect" sounding

and you don't have to do it on every track..maybe just one track..
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Hi Cello,

Could you expand on what you mean by that with examples? I'm interested by your suggestion but I'm not entirely sure what you mean ;)

Thanks in advance friend, and thanks for giving me some feedback.

I've already decided to compress the vocals a TAD more a bring the synths down a touch, and when the backing vocals are in place that should hopefully bring the vocals out a touch more.

Do you think everything has enough clarity in the mix.

Thanks,

Sammy.
 
nice work, only thing I'd add is light hats or tambourine (16ths) for the verse part. or maybe hats for the verse amd tamb 16ths on the chorus instead..

Really impressive song!
 
aidan_m said:
nice work, only thing I'd add is light hats or tambourine (16ths) for the verse part. or maybe hats for the verse amd tamb 16ths on the chorus instead..

Really impressive song!
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Glad you like the song.

So something else in the top end then? Running all the way through the verse or?

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Any mix issues?
 
Very good quality... writing, recording, performance. At 1:27 there's a guitar lick that sounds oddly edited. Maybe you meant it to stutter-step like that, and if so, it just shows my lack of experience with the style. But it caught my ear as sounding artificial in a mix that otherwise sounds very realistic. Whatever...

Kudos for coming so far with your writing and recording skills compared to couple years ago when I first heard your tunes.
 
XLR said:
Very good quality... writing, recording, performance. At 1:27 there's a guitar lick that sounds oddly edited. Maybe you meant it to stutter-step like that, and if so, it just shows my lack of experience with the style. But it caught my ear as sounding artificial in a mix that otherwise sounds very realistic. Whatever...

Kudos for coming so far with your writing and recording skills compared to couple years ago when I first heard your tunes.
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Yeah the last comment means a lot. It really has been no stop on this subject to get this far though. Just proves it can be done though to be honest.

The guitar was meant to be stuttered like that yeah.

Cheers for the feedback.
 
Nice song Sammy!
I'm with the others; your vocals need to stand out more. You can do that one of two ways; turn them up, or turn other elements down, or eliminate them entirely, so long as vocals are happening. In addition to that, you might add some beat-synced delay and other processing to the vocal. In all honesty, the vocal seems a bit dry and pale againt the other tracks, which I assume are loops you are using to arrange the song?!?!

Peace!

~Shawn
 
eyema_believer said:
Nice song Sammy!
I'm with the others; your vocals need to stand out more. You can do that one of two ways; turn them up, or turn other elements down, or eliminate them entirely, so long as vocals are happening. In addition to that, you might add some beat-synced delay and other processing to the vocal. In all honesty, the vocal seems a bit dry and pale againt the other tracks, which I assume are loops you are using to arrange the song?!?!

Peace!

~Shawn
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The guitars are chopped loops but everything else is Midi.

Can anyone recommend me a good delay because I really need to splash out on a decent delay plugin - that's one area where my studio is falling short at the moment.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
Sounds good! Like others said bring up the vox. I find the "snare" a little too mechanical, and too upfront in the mix, like it needs a bit of reverb possibly. I realize this is a mix, but it's like the whole thing needs a smooth over with some compression or something. The punch is good on the bottom end, but the top end seems to need smoothing out. Just my 2 cents anyways, I'm still pretty new at this
 
Yes!
Up with the vocals.
I would do this and listen befor adding the high end accents on the 16ths.
I think you are good to go!
Dude!
 
I've added in the tambourine that someone suggested. I'm so pleased with how that's filled out the top end so thanks to whoever suggested that. I've upped the reverb a touch on the snare and I'm in the process of putting in the backing vocals.

I'll give you guys an updated link when I've got a new mixdown.
 
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAN'T EDIT YOUR POST. *sigh*

Oh well - here is my "final" mix. I'm pretty much done with it unless anyone has any suggestions - I've had a play with mastering but I just CAN'T get it as loud and clear as I want it.

The mix is going through some Vintage Warmer compression and then I'm using the loudness maximiser in Ozone at a Thresh of about 3.1 to get it at this point but iTunes Sound Check doesn't seem to like it (it's making it REALLY quiet) and it doesn't really stand even close next to Kylie Minogue or anything like that (not that it's going too but I'd like to think I could get it a BIT closer).

Suggestions - are welcomed. On mix, composition and suggestions for a better master.

Thanks in advance.

HERE IS THE NEW LINK - PLEASE IGNORE THE OLD ONE.

 
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