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ey guys, i am trying to mix thrash metal, and its been so hard! i am going to be using sm57s on two guitar amps, ( a crate shockwave and a peavey 5150), right now i am using sm58s. i cant seem to get a decent guitar tone. can anyone help? i feel that thrash seems to be so hard to track and mix. any helpp would be awesome. thanx guys.
Josh
 
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in my experience, 75 percent of your recorded guitar tone depends on how you teaked your amp and played the song, but just for kicks, what are you doing to it post-recording? I'm assuming you're doubling/tripling/quadrupling the guitars, right?
 
I agree with the previous poster.

For alternative/pop/rock/metal/european shit, I always "AT LEAST" use six or eight guitar tracks done with diffrent guitars, picks, string gauge, amps, cabinets, pickups, amp settings, speakers, levels, mics, etc....you have to do this in order to get THICKNESS.

An SM58 is gonna go well to cut not more than half the guitar tracks you want, since it's a quite colorul mic. By this, I mean that even if you change amp settings or guitars, you wil still have the same "color" to the sound, which is a no-no in the thickness game. You have to get yourself two other mics, an LDC and an SDC and mix all those tracks to get the beefiest sound.

Also, crank the mids on both amps to the max, be easy on the treble and crank the presence up to the point were it's too much, then back it up a little...should give the tone a nice swirl in the high end.

And most importantly, turn the amps LOUD AS SHIT and use cabinets loaded with Vintage 30 speakers. For thrash, a 4x12 Mesa Recto Standard cab is hard to beat IMHO.
 
TheDewd said:
I agree with the previous poster.

For alternative/pop/rock/metal/european shit, I always "AT LEAST" use six or eight guitar tracks done with diffrent guitars, picks, string gauge, amps, cabinets, pickups, amp settings, speakers, levels, mics, etc....you have to do this in order to get THICKNESS.

An SM58 is gonna go well to cut not more than half the guitar tracks you want, since it's a quite colorul mic. By this, I mean that even if you change amp settings or guitars, you wil still have the same "color" to the sound, which is a no-no in the thickness game. You have to get yourself two other mics, an LDC and an SDC and mix all those tracks to get the beefiest sound.

Also, crank the mids on both amps to the max, be easy on the treble and crank the presence up to the point were it's too much, then back it up a little...should give the tone a nice swirl in the high end.

And most importantly, turn the amps LOUD AS SHIT and use cabinets loaded with Vintage 30 speakers. For thrash, a 4x12 Mesa Recto Standard cab is hard to beat IMHO.

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IMHO,i havent tried 58's but for 57's i put them right on the speaker cloth directly toward the cone center(90 angle= bright = good for thrash ... move towards outside of cone and change angle -towards center = to get a smoother/ mellower sound)

2 tracks is plenty, then hard pan.

sometimes boost 250hz for some meat

if you can monitor from a different room... do that and adjust the amp, and mic for your sound, otherwise record the track then listen to it, change it and repeat..

gl
 
thanx

ey guys thanx alot! i will use all the techniques. ya i a really looking forward to getting that megadeth sound with the balls of pantera you know what i mean. i am def gonna try convincing my brother to change his settings. thanx again for all your help.
Josh
 
Haha, I always wondered why so many engineer's seem to keep guns around.
 
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