thought you guys might like to hear some drums I recorded last night..

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this is the drum track for my bands latest song.
There is no EQ, compression or reverb on any of the individual tracks. Let me know if you want more details ( kit, mics, placement, room, etc )

FYI.. this was more a scratch track/proof of concept.. i'm going back to re-record a tighter version.... not making excuses... I know some kicks and tom runs are slightly out of time. I was just interested in everyones opinion on the sonic aspect of the recording.

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my main kit mics are from samson. ( the kit box they sell )
samson C02 overheads in a medium wide spaced pair ( about a foot and a half apart ) equidistant from the snare ( 40 inches ).
samson tom mics as high as they go on the mounts ( about 4 inches up pointing at the center of the toms )
I used the samson bass drum mic on the floor tom on a mic stand
sm57 on the snare about 2 inches up from the rim pointing accross the head
d112 inside the bassdrum ( there's no hole in the front head.. the 112 is suspended on bungies in there )
a homemade subkick ( 10 inch speaker I got from music go round wired directly into an xlr connector ) about 4 inches from the front head.
a studio projects C1 on a stand about 5 feet from the front of set in the middle of the kit about 7 feet high.
 
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For a raw drum track, it sounds pretty good man. It's hard to tell without hearing it in context of the song, but I'm pretty sure you're going to have to bring that kik up.
 
I have plenty of fader left on the kick LOL.. I'm probably going to do some parallel compression and EQ the bass,toms and snare just a tad.. but i'm trying to get the best raw sound I can.
 
it's funny .. you can hear a little crackling sound later in the track.. I found that's my number 3 tom mic being hit by the ride cymbal..
 
Sounds really nice. I hear the crackling your talking about, but other than that they sound good. It sounds like the kick might be vibrating a mic somewhere in there, from about 1:55 to the end I hear a weird *clank clank* sound that follows the kick.
 
Wow... nice. I especially admire how people are not afraid of drums. I'm afraid of them. I mean, as in, I don't go anywhere near them. They are big and scary and require lots of well-placed mics.

That said, a live recording, such as yours, sounds so much "meatier" than the usual obligatory quantized drum track produced with some VST... *envious*
 
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Wow... nice. I especially admire how people are not afraid of drums. I'm afraid of them. I mean, as in, I don't go anywhere near them. They are big and scary and require lots of well-placed mics.

That said, a live recording, such as yours, sounds so much "meatier" than the usual obligatory quantized drum track produced with some VST... *envious*
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Because we've got some drummers here that are grand songwriters, decent multi instrumentalists and fantastic recorders {it's not being pompous to refer to them as recording engineers because that's what they also are}, it can feel intimidating recording drums because "against" multitalented guys, it would appear that one would never be as good.
But on the other hand, for many of us, drums are such an indispensible part of much of our music that there comes a point where you develop your own taste and work your own preferences, not someone elses.
 
lockesilver said:
They are big and scary and require lots of well-placed mics.
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Not as well placed as you might think.. I thought that too.. and I was constantly trying new mics and positions.. killing myself to get that "magic" sound I heard in my head and on all those great recordings that I referenced. Then I tried leaving the mics alone, turning down the pre-amp gain ( i was astounded at what a difference this made! ) and tuning the drums. Making tuning adjustments, test recording just the snare, hats and kick with 4 mics ( 2 c02 overhead, d112 in the kick and sm57 on the snare ), seeing how that sounded. Making more tuning adjustments, wash, rinse, repeat. I wanted to see the relationship between a tight top head vs looser top head and that magic "crack" that i'd been looking for ( the bottom head was always so tight it was screaming.. but I like that sound). It took about 6 or 7 times through the process but I'm understanding what I need to do to get that sound that I want. It's really about 75% tuning and 20% mic placement ( 5% mic and room.. I put a samson C01 condenser along side the sm57 and that made a huge impact in the "crack" dept. ). Don't be afraid, set up something minimal.. do test recordings.. change things and see how it's sounding.. it's just a time investment... it's amazing what you can learn if you just listen/observe what happens in each test vs. what you did.
 
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