This SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Last night some %##&%@&%&()%!@$&@$#!& sent me a virus and wiped out entire files. Many of my multi-track sessions.

Ive heard that its a good idea to back up files on the hard drive, but are there any other ways to get a large multi-track file onto some sort of outside medium so that it could also be put back on the hard drive should somthing go wrong?
 
I've always been a fan of just using CD-Rs. Do you have your audio files on the same hard drive as your email stuff? I didn't think that they would jump hard drives like that.
 
Dude, I feel for ya. that does suck!
Two Words:
(Norton Anti-Virus)
 
5 words

dont open files with attachments.....


more words

if you dont know who sent it dont open it....
 
I agree...don't open anything!

Do what I've done...get removeable drives. I backup all my music onto a couple removeable drives (10gigs each). That's the thing to do my friend. Drives are fairly cheap. You don't need a huge one.

If that doesn't do it for you, CD-Rs. Hell, I do both just in case.
 
As my computer is being eaten alive with viruses I've gotta say don't even open email attachements from people you do know.
 
I use McAfee.com . It is an online virus program that resides online and is updated weekly by McAfee. I like it as I have a cable modem. It is fast and alwasy up to date. Cost is 39 bucks a year for the virus stuff as well as all sorts of system optimizing software.

Also, use a CD-R to back up your music, even if no viruses are in the picture, it is nice to have that safety copy. WebCyan, I hope you can get things running again.

Fangar
 
sorry for the loss

it's tough to know that countless hours of work have gotten nailed...all probably within minutes. yuck. :(

my suggestion for you would be this: if you have a net-capable computer, then only use it for that kinda stuff. i would personally keep my recording-computer away from the internet...just for that very reason. if you can get a cheap internet-capable computer, that would be cool. then, you wouldn't have to worry about email/attachment viruses getting through to your sacred files. :)

again, sorry. i've been there myself, before.
 
I agree with most of the above message...

Sort of a rule I have heard and always tried to follow.. If you are recording on a computer. Make that the only thing you do with that computer...

I understand that not everyone has the luxury of owning 2 computers... But you can pick up an old P-133 or something for $200 and use that for internet....

Digi Doesn't reccomend having anything else on a computer but the music stuff you are using...

My wife wanted to put MS word on mine.. I said "I don't think so...":rolleyes:

With my Waves gold and PT LE and other shit... there's thousands of dollars sitting on my drive... Not too mention the 4 songs in production, that I have been too lazy to backup/save to CD R :D
 
Can't say that I agree with VOXVENDOR, but I understand where he's coming from. I do agree with running anti-virus software.

AVG Antivirus is *free* and integrates with MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express. Plus it doesn't wig out like Norton and McAfee have a tendancy to do. The only catch is that it appends a little message to the end of each email saying "this message certified virus free by AVG blah blah". Definately worth it. It can automatically download updates, and it has realtime file scanning. Personally I leave the file scanning system off, and just run it once a week, but I leave the email protection on at all times.

The server that I administer at work here gets hit with as many as 25 viruses a day. We have a more advanced anti-virus system, but it's comparable to AVG. I don't know what we'd do without it!

Looking at my server logs both here and at home, I'm absolutely amazed at the number of machines still infected with nimbda and code red....I'm talking a hit from an infected machine every few minutes. This means that all these thousands of machines are also susceptable to a swarm of other more dangerous viruses. The last time viruses were such a hot topic was back in the early 90's with Michealangelo, Stoned, etc....and they all spread via FLOPPY DISKS!! Back then we said, "don't take a floppy from somebody you don't know", and now we say "don't open email attachments from somebody you don't know".

As for backup, CDR is good. It does suck though that you're limited to 700MB, because a lot of projects will certainly be well over that. But 2 CD's isn't so bad per project. I'd advise against compressing files before burning to CD though. If you scratch a portion of the disc, you risk losing your entire project instead of just a portion of it it.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Slackmaster2K said:
Can't say that I agree with VOXVENDOR, but I understand where he's coming from
Slackmaster 2000
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Im cool with that...:)

At least Explain what Im saying thats wrong...


It's sort of a (not etched in stone, but well known) rule with PT that you use your computer for nothing else...

Most PTLE users on the Digi BBS with say that.... I sort of generally assumed it was like that with all DAW

Is that wrong Slackmaster? Is it only Pro tools thats like that....??

Ssssplain Lucy! :)
 
Of course it's a common claim that you should only use your computer for audio, because it eliminates a lot of potential problems. That's why I understand where you're coming from.

However, that doesn't mean you need two machines. Dual booting is considerably more cost and space effective. If you're willing to deal with a few issues from time to time, you can run a DAW and all of your other applications on a single Win2k installation without worrying about the ol' win98 degredation over time issues. You can also specify specific hardware configurations just for recording on Win2k, and add custom user configurations.

I do a lot of work and play on my machine, besides recording. I would need to purchase and upkeep two full blown fast machines if I wanted to just use my DAW machine for audio work. I use a single Win2k installation for everything...in fact a lot of the time I'll be running IM & have the BBS up while I'm recording. When the system really starts to load up (around say 20+ 24bit tracks with several effects), then I shut everything else down.

I don't think that running two machines is necessarily that much more secure as far as your data is concerned. A backup is a backup. However I guess if you isolated the DAW you'd have a very slim chance of getting a virus....but then a machine without a network connection is a royal pain in the butt if you ask me.

Now if I had a studio or something, I'd have a dedicated machine in it, just because that's all I'd be doing on it.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Oops, I hit submit too soon :)

In my studio I have a stand alone machine just for my PT.. no network connection nor internet..

When I was talking about 2 seperate machines, I meant one for internet and one for DAW...
I wasn't implying that 2 machines would be a better set up for backing up......
What I was getting at, and seems I might have been a bit unclear.. was that...If your not hooked up to the net and reading email and downloading etc. onto your DAW computer your chances of having a virus affect your DAW like the first post mentioned is very slim.. (Unless, your putting in Disks that have not been virus scanned....)

Cheers :)
 
I think that it would depend on which software/hardware you are dealing with. I mean pro tools stuff hates everything else. if you go to the user conference there, I always here about people who can only get their 001 to work in certain PCI slots/IRQ addresses.
 
A bit off topic but.......

JFOGARTY>>

I haven't had any trouble.... But I totally know what you mean about the software "hating" everything else...

In return alot of there customers are starting to hate them...

Theres alot of rumbings on that bbs.....

Digi can be a real sad company.... I spent $1500 (Can) on my 001... and one of it's features, is that you can bounce your finished tune as an MP3... well, I tried to do that and found out that it's a 30 day teaser...

I was so angry...

They want $20 for the MP3 feature to be enabled permanently....

I don't care if they add $20 to the price of the system on the shelf.. but what they did is bull..... To put something worth only $20 on an fairly expensive storebought system that is only a demo with option of purchase is pretty low. (IMHO)

What if you bought a car and the window rolling down feature was just a 30 day demo....The car companies add that into the price in the first place, which is the way it SHOULD be done...

AARRRRHHH :D

(PS.. I still love my PT, regarless of all that shit...)
 
Steinberg's Nuendo lets you export directly to MP3 format. But I prefer to export to wav, and then rip to MP3 outside of Nuendo.
 
2 machines

that's what i was referring to, earlier. if you have the ability to run two separate machines (one for net stuff, etc. and one for only the DAW) then your likelihood of contracting a virus is slim. that has nothing to do with backing up your material. i try to backup regularly to disc. :) it's just easier to not clutter up a dedicated recording machine that way, because over time we tend to accumulate a lot of crap on net-worthy machines. that's all. it's just the physical separation that helps maintain a more stable working environment for your DAW. :) (even if your software does or doesn't like other programs on the same computer)

:)
 
Re: A bit off topic but.......

VOXVENDOR said:
JFOGARTY>>

They want $20 for the MP3 feature to be enabled permanently....


(PS.. I still love my PT, regarless of all that shit...)
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Yeah, the first thing I ever started to record with was Pro Tools free. I've tried other stuff, but I just can't get used to it.
Pro Tools is just a good system made by a dirty underhanded company ;)
 
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