The hi-jacking of musicality ~ another gecko ramble

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In a recent post, one of the contributors had achieved decent results in recording and was wondering what else needed to be done. The responses were generally (and wisely, in my view) along the lines of "don't mess with what sounds good already".

This lead me down a train of thought that dwelt on how intrusive some engineers have become in the recording process. I think that in many cases, musicians have either forgotten or abdicated their responsibilities towards the musicality of their performance, handing this over to the engineer. And in some cases, the engineers have seized this with vigour, not allowing musicians to own their own musicality.

One of the reasons is that we can; we have so many toys at our fingertips that the urge to take charge of the product is almost irresistible. We get caught up in a kind of technology addiction with our tubes and racks and plug-ins and firewires that the process becomes the end, rather than the product.

We end up telling the musician what is acceptable, rather than them telling us. We repair, improve and enhance with gleeful abandon, recreating musical creations in our own image, twisting them to suit our personal views of what things should sound like.

This becomes self-perpetuating: you say to a musician, "you've gone a bit flat there, but nevermind, I can autotune that ok" or "that note is a bit early. I'll just nudge it along a bit". The musician is grateful and pleased that you can fix the potentially embarassing mistake, and thinks you are some kind of miracle worker. The next time they come in, they know that you can do this, and so become less concerned about delivering a good performance, expecting you to be able to fix things for them as you did before. Some of us are only too pleased to do this, because it gives us a chance to use our toys, and to show how clever we are. In this way we progressively take increasingly more control over the whole process.

I was talking to another sound guy about live mixing, and I mentioned my discomfort when people come up to me and say "thanks for the wonderful sound". It's not that I don't mind praise, it's more that I think I should be invisible. If people are listening to a performance, they should be awed by the performance, not the sound. The sound guy is a means to an end, where that end is the faithful, sensitive presentation of a band's performance to its audience. I believe a listener's commendations of the engineer are misplaced, because they are attributing musicality to the engineer, not the artist.

A band I knew recorded a demo CD. They had won a grant for this, which meant they could afford to fly in a reasonably well-established producer for the project. They gave me the resulting CD. I listened to it and was appalled. It was drenched in reverb and chock full of effects (e.g. guitars in sweeping pans from side to side). I wondered where the band was, but they were buried in this wash of technological wizardry. I thought to myself: "this isn't a representation of the band; it's a representation of a producer who is just showing off, dazzling the band with his tricks so that they are fooled into not listening to what they should be listening to, i.e. their own performance."

Technology is important, and better technology is even more important. But I think it is there for one purpose; to represent musicality with integrity, not to create it or substitute for it.
 
It's a catch 22. A lot of musicians that show up here are delusional about their abilities or just haven't actually listened to themselves. I am constantly prodded to 'do my magic' to make everything listenable. The expectation is that I will make everything right. If the budget is there, I will happily quantize everything.
I personally don't do much in the way of bazaar effects and gimmicks, I prefer to have the song stand on it's own. My part in that would be possibly picking the most suitable sounds to support the song.

I really don't have any proof, but it seems that the players have gotten worse in the last 15 or 20 years. Technology just covers it up a bit.
 
I was reading an article in Mix Mag a couple of weeks ago, and it was an interview with one of the producers for Aretha Franklin, who also happened to be her drummer at some point? (I can't remember the name, but perhaps you can help me on that.)

Anyway, as I read the article, he goes on to praise Aretha for her "a few steps ahead" attitude in her work ethic.

He would argue with her and say, "well I think that was a little off, let's try it again", and Aretha would reply, "I think it's just fine the way it is".

And as gifted as this producer is (at least from credit), over time he realized that she was right. Those little quirks made her, and he did well to respect that.

So I don't think the engineer needs to be in the hot seat alone. If he has the ability to correct things, then that's great, more power to him. I've seen musicians who rely on that heavily and other's who prefer to do it natural.

I suppose the best senario most of the time is to have a mutual understanding of what is expected of one another.

I've always seen an engineer's ability to improve a song just like a police officer's ability to use a gun. If both are used carelessly, then you risk killing an innocent bystander.

In our case, a potentially good song.
 
LeeRosario said:
I've always seen an engineer's ability to improve a song just like a police officer's ability to use a gun.
Insert your own "Dick Cheney, Recording Engineer" joke here...

G.
 
I think the "good job" from the audience could possibly be due to the large number of "set-and-forget" type bands, and the sub-rate "engineers" that are out there (For example, I once brought in an outsider for a small gig in one of our smaller rooms whilst the main crew were up in teh theatre proper. As the system was taking off in a huge feedback spiral, he was at the bar ordering drinks...).

There is also a degree of musicality in a live mix, although it's more of a photographer's art than the painter's...

I think it also depends on the maturity (in music, not in life) of the band as well. If they're immature, then a little guidance from a half-decent engineer/producer can go a long way.

However, this works both ways. I was on a live gig the other day where a client flew out China's top pianist to play for us. I was running systems/recording. There were a lot of changeovers, so instead of using two mics for hte piano, we used a single Rode NT-4. Normally when using the NT-4 on the piano, I have the lid up half-stick and position the mic blah blah blah. The FOH engineer, however, decided taht he wanted the lid down for allthe performances, with teh NT4 shoved behind the music stand. It sounded OK for live, and OK(ish) for hte record. Then we soundchecked the Chinese Pianist. He said (through his translator) that he wanted to play with the lid up. Now, going through a translator, I didn't get the whoule story- maybe he wanted the lid up so he could hear better... whatever. Anyway, the lid goes up, and the FOH engineer runs down to stage, and closes the lid. There was a good half hour of talks between him, the translator and the pianist. Neither was going to budge... In the end it took me and hte monitor guy to convince the FOH guy to just let it be and let him have the lid up...
Now that's an example of hi-jacking musicality. THe FOH engineer has been mixing for a few years, maybe, but the pianist had been playing for decades, and knew exactly what worked for him. When you're in that situation, you should definatley take a back seat...

I suppose all this is pretty obvious, eh? I jsut like the sound of this keybaord i think... clickety clickety clack...

there are times that I think I need to sleep more... this is one of them...
 
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