The Big gap between The pro studio and your Bedroom. Audio Examples

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Ok,

I could not see the post without searching. hence the need to repost.

I was listening again, and I actually think I prefer the homerecorded version. It sounds more musical
 
Cool.

CJ,

I think if you have a good understanding of acoustics you can proably make a good tune anywhere.

I accidently made some real quality tunes at home. The first time I was in my dad's library. The room had serveral large bookcases filled with huge books. The floor was carpeted and the ceiling wasn't finished out yet. It had the R15 pink insulation in the ceiling.

I think the book shelves acted as diffusors and the insulation on the ceiling killed any standing waves. This gave an awesome sound. So yeah if you can find the right room at home and also know a little about acoustics I bet you could get some pretty good sounds.

The 2nd accident was I didn't have a mic stand yet so I layed the mic on a pillow. THis gave a really clean sound.

I think some tricks here and there in a fairly decent room could equal some good tunes.

My problem is not acoustics but kid-noise. You really can't have that noise in your tunes. Now if you live alone and own your own home. THen yeah you could put up some treatments that would sound pretty good.

,Jerry
 
LOL....I've made some accidental recordings myself..in the most bizarre places....I'll be damned if I could duplicate intentionally. I guess that the difference between a permanent novice (myself) and a pro (or talented home engineer).
 
Wow,

The library sounds like a great space to record/mix.

The point I am making is that some people still prefer to plunk down $2200 for 2 songs at a pro studio, when they could get almost a complete recording setup for that price and do as many songs as they dare.

peace
 
Gosh, the bedroom one sounded much more pleasant to me... it just had more "life," for lack of a better term.

Isaiah
 
I was amazed at how different both versions of this tune sound. There is definately a sound quaity difference.

The pro version is much clearer especially in the low end. I like the vocals better on the home version, though: there are spots where they sound compromised in the pro version- and you can hear it that much more clearly.

I like the choruses better on the home version. More life.

It has been my experience that songs recorded in a hurry at a pro studio don't really end up all that good. Hurried songs at home don't either, but you notice it more with the pro stuff. What good are all those options if you don't have time to do it right?

Accidentally good recordings!? Non-sense! All the good ones I meant to do! Its the bad ones that are accidents... :D

-Chris
 
yo chris,

the pro mix sounds clearer everywhere. I think thats why it sounds almost sterile compared to the homerecorded mix. Too clean, too defined.

It also doesnot have all the little things that the home guy put. Those add character.

I still would not mind hearing the home mix on a cd. Even a national one, and it was done with a sound module a card that does not even have a breakout box
 
sterility is the perfect word.

i have a few questions:

1. was the big studio version re-recorded material, or just a different mix.
2. if it was re-recorded, was it re-played on pro equipment or were the same keyboard/sound modules and such re-recorded (ie.. midi played in big studio).
3. how much time was spent mixing the home vs. studio versions.

finally, the radio frequency sound on the home version was captivating. on the studio version i couldn't tell if it was there and i missed it.
 
Pierre Sprey makes world class recordings in his living room with a couple hand tweaked pzm’s and a meticulously modified old Sony tape deck.

http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/main/AUDIOV~1.HTM

I’d say his techniques are half brilliant insight and half superstition, but either way he’s obviously gifted.

barefoot
 
What stuck out for me on my quick 30 second appraisal of each version was the sense of space you get in the studio version that is less apparent in the home version. This is a huuuuuge point in the dif between home and pro recordings (you can do this at home too)...its called panning. I think on average the panning on home recordings Ive heard has not been wider than 30-40 notches off center. To get the sense of space and nice separation of sounds in a mix you need to be panning wide 75-90 notches off center especially when layering sound and vocals.

Great song btw...whose the group? Is this your mixing?
 
Here's a stupid question regarding panning, then. I'm recording a singer/songwriter/guitarist...

I've been mostly keeping the voice and the guitar on top of each other, but occasionally panning each slightly to one side. It seems to me that if I pan more extreme then that, it sounds bizarre - like you expect to hear them from the same source, and don't get it... I guess this is an exception - or do you disagree?
 
I think the voice should always stay in the center. The best thing would be to record the guitar in stereo, and pan the diff mics to differnet spots.

But if its already recorder, a good trick is to apply some chorus to the guitar.

I agree. Agressive panning on acoustic guitar sounds tacky
 
I didnt mean to suggest aggressive panning on vocals, at least not main vocals. Im taking about keyboard sounds, background harmonies the occasional 3rd layer of percussion...all that kind of stuff. Things that move in and out of a mix can open and close it with wide panning. It also depends on the genre of music...in electronica and trance aggressive panning is the norm. In R&B like destinys chid, blu cantrel and artists of that ilk the sense of space you get when you listen comes largely from widely panned harmonies and in a bridge or sudden stop vocals will be panned even wider. I think this is critical in getting a more dynamic, open sound. It doesnt fly as much in rock or it hasnt been the convention up till now (there hasnt been enough going on in rock to pan wide anyway...theres not alot of texture with 2 guitarists playing the same power chords) but its definiely an area to experiment with.
 
Why even bother with that experiment? Guitar based rock is pretty much DEAD. Has been for a few years now.

barefoot
 
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