bennychico11
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The Control 24 is more of a control surface than a console while the Tascam is a digital mixer.
The Control 24 will integrate better with your HD rig though. I haven't used the Tascam but I liked the Control 24. The tascam is a hell of a lot cheaper though. It'll probably come down to either cost, the tiny details that differ between the two, and whether or not you want your audio running through the Tascam's digital mixer or would rather keep all the audio inside of PT.
The Control 24 will integrate better with your HD rig though. I haven't used the Tascam but I liked the Control 24. The tascam is a hell of a lot cheaper though. It'll probably come down to either cost, the tiny details that differ between the two, and whether or not you want your audio running through the Tascam's digital mixer or would rather keep all the audio inside of PT.
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xstatic
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The Control 24 does actually have preamps on it though and they are quite a bit nicer than the TAscam's (assuming they are using the same ones as in the DM24). The Tascam can be made to interface with PT, but won't come close to the integration that the Control 24 will offer you. On another note, Pro Control's and expansion wings for the Pro Conrol have dropped greatly in their used price and are very easy to find now. My bet is that the Icon has triggered the sale of many Pro Control's. Last I heard, Digidesign had already shipped either 100 or 1000 Ikons this year. In either scenario, my bet is that 95% of those buyers immediately put Pro Controls up on the used market
One other point... Unless Tascam has made some big changes in their digital mixers recently, be very weary of their build quality. Every DM24 I have touched had broken knobs, flimsy faders, jittery motorization, and even malfunctioning features (some of which were even software related).
One other point... Unless Tascam has made some big changes in their digital mixers recently, be very weary of their build quality. Every DM24 I have touched had broken knobs, flimsy faders, jittery motorization, and even malfunctioning features (some of which were even software related).
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King_Cobra
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Thanks alot guys! I'm going with the digi controller..
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ZenFly
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Allow me to chime in here.
1. The DM3200 is NOT a DM24.
2. The DM3200 pres absolutely sound fantastic
3. There are no build or QC issues I can find in my DM3200. Very solid desk, all controls, knobs, lights, buttons and motors works as they should.
4. The Control 24 has had tons of QC issues according to feeback on Digi's and other boards.
5. The Control 24 is a control surface with a couple of pres and no mixing/bussing capability
6. The Control 24 used is 1/2 again as expensive as a new DM3200.
Glad you decided on the Control 24 and I hope it does the job for you. OTOH, if you haven't checked out the DM3200 in person, you may be missing out.
I will say the manual for the DM3200 sucks. Hopefully that will improve in time.
1. The DM3200 is NOT a DM24.
2. The DM3200 pres absolutely sound fantastic
3. There are no build or QC issues I can find in my DM3200. Very solid desk, all controls, knobs, lights, buttons and motors works as they should.
4. The Control 24 has had tons of QC issues according to feeback on Digi's and other boards.
5. The Control 24 is a control surface with a couple of pres and no mixing/bussing capability
6. The Control 24 used is 1/2 again as expensive as a new DM3200.
Glad you decided on the Control 24 and I hope it does the job for you. OTOH, if you haven't checked out the DM3200 in person, you may be missing out.
I will say the manual for the DM3200 sucks. Hopefully that will improve in time.
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xstatic
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Since my last post I got to check out a DM3200 at a local Guitar Center now. So far I have found the preamps to be just as stale as the DM24 (although until you track and mix, you can never be certain). The EQ still feels very harsh, not sweet at all. The FX seemed a little better, and the compression seemed cleaner. I can't speak for QC issues because everything on thisconsole worked, but it is still new. It will be a good 6 months or so before an accurate QC judgement can be made, unless of course many bad reports comein before that. All of the knobs still feel flimsy so far, but they may still last. The faders still jitter when being recalled.
I am not saying that the Control 24 is the best thing out there, or that the Tascam sux. But, for integrating with Pro Tools specifically, the Tascam can't even come close. Also, I would never buy a Tascam digital mixer, but thats just me
I am not saying that the Control 24 is the best thing out there, or that the Tascam sux. But, for integrating with Pro Tools specifically, the Tascam can't even come close. Also, I would never buy a Tascam digital mixer, but thats just me
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King_Cobra
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Cool..
Thanks for the review Xstatic!
Thanks for the review Xstatic!
TuoKaerf
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Control 24's got a bad name a few years back when there were some issues with them, and Digi has solved those issues. The bad name comes from people who prob have never touched one before hanging on to what was said about them before. I have used them on numerous projects, and I found them to be very simple (you'll be up and running smooth on one after about an hour). The only real negative thing that I can think of about one is that they are un-expandable, but still you have 24 physical faders, and that is what banking is for. I woulden't forsee Digi getting rid of these anytime in the near future. Yes they have the D-Control and D-Command, but the Control 24 is still very popular and works just as good as Digi's new flagship controllers.
A Pro Control is another option, and these are expandable up to 4 fader packs and an edit pack. The Pro Controls are also good controllers, except I have found those to be a little more quirkey than a Control 24 (sometimes Pro Tools won't recognize your Edit Pack and you have to shut down Pro Tools and turn off all of your 192's, and the faders can be a bit jumpy sometimes...). But other than that, they are very functional and easy to use.
Do you use any outboard gear? If not, a control surface might be the best answer. Mix in the box with an analog feel. Even if you have some outboard gear that you want to use, hook em up to your 192 and use your sends/inserts in Pro Tools.
A Pro Control is another option, and these are expandable up to 4 fader packs and an edit pack. The Pro Controls are also good controllers, except I have found those to be a little more quirkey than a Control 24 (sometimes Pro Tools won't recognize your Edit Pack and you have to shut down Pro Tools and turn off all of your 192's, and the faders can be a bit jumpy sometimes...). But other than that, they are very functional and easy to use.
Do you use any outboard gear? If not, a control surface might be the best answer. Mix in the box with an analog feel. Even if you have some outboard gear that you want to use, hook em up to your 192 and use your sends/inserts in Pro Tools.