Tascam 424 mkII or mkIII?

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I'm interested in buying a Tascam 424 mkII or mkIII from eBay. What would be the best buy for getting my own ideas on tape and possibly a band demo (2 guitars, vocals, bass and drums)? What are the advantages/disadvantages? And what will the quality be like when I have bounced tracks? Also can I hear previously recorded tracks whilst recording anohter on top?
 
Here is a quote from the Tascam website:

The 424mkIII is TASCAM's finest cassette four track. Its advanced feature set offers something for everyone. The 2 independent auxiliaries mean you can add two separate effects to the same channel... not something many of our competitors can do. The 3 band sweepable mid band EQ gives you the flexibility to focus on the sweet spot of the sound to help give it a little more life. The 4 XLR mic preamps keep your inputs quieter, and will save you from the hassles of finding the XLR to 1/4" transformers. The expert will appreciate these advanced features. The novice can grow into them, and improve their skills with time.

4 XLR mic preamps
6 channel strips & 1 stereo input
3 band EQ with sweepable mid on each channel
2 effect sends
3 3/4 ips high tape speed, and 1 7/8 ips normal speed
dbx noise reduction
Electronic transport for better tape handling
Individual track outputs
Separate I/O for mixdown deck connection & monitoring
Optional RC-30P punch-in pedal


And on the MKII:

For you or as a gift. The new 414mkII Portastudio is ideal for newcomers or those experienced in multitrack recording, packing high-end features into a convenient, compact and economical package. A high-speed transport, combined with Hi & Low EQ and dbx noise reduction means great sound. For convenience, there are also 2 XLR microphone inputs, and a 1/4" HiZ guitar input. Use it for demos, as a portable sketch pad, or for practicing recording techniques.

4 track recorder with 8 input mixer
4 mic/line input channels, 2 stereo inputs
2 XLR mic inputs
HiZ guitar input
2 effect sends
2 band EQ on each channel
3 3/4 ips high tape speed
dbx noise reduction
Optional RC-30P punch-in pedal


You can't go wrong with either machine, IMHO. The MKIII will give you a few more bells and whistles, and it costs more, but if you are serious about recording, that's the way to go. I found in my own experience that getting the cheapest I could find usually left me wishing I had more. There is sage advice that goes: buy cheap, buy twice.
As far as bouncing tracks, anytime you bounce an analog signal, you are basically re-recording tape to tape, and there will be signal loss. You can minimize it by making sure you have high quality tape in your machine, NOT METAL tapes, as they will act as sandpaper on your heads. Go for High Bias tape, not more than 60 minutes long. The longer tapes tend to be thinner and you will have problems with write-through and track bleeding.
One last thing, the MKIII has multiple inputs and decent pre amps, so you can record more than one track at a time and more than one instrument/vocal at a time.
Good luck, and I hope this was helpful.
Rokket
 
I would highly recommend the mkIII as a unit to start out with. I purchased mine two years ago and learned a great deal with it. The 3 band EQ was a definant bonus, and worth the extra money if only for that feature. You can get one (as I'm sure you know) for a very reasonable price on eBay. Working w/ the mkIII got me hooked on recording, which I guess it a good thing... unless you like money... because once you get hooked like me you can't help but partake in frequent gear upgrades. Anyway, all rambling aside, mkIII = yes.
 
mk111

I have had a mk111 for about two years in my home studio. It works great and the instruction book is easy to understand. The 4 track simulationus recording feature is great for a small band. You wont be disappointed. ;)
 
I have a 424MKII I purchased when it came out (around 1996?) and it served me well until its retirement in 1999 (replaced with a Yamaha 4-track minidisc recorder) The funny thing is I still have it. I think I could maybe get $60 for it, and honestly it's not worth it, so it sits in the bottom of my rack (on top of the stereo cassette recorder I used for mixdowns). It will make a nice conversation piece 20 years from now :)

Although it is tempting to fire it up and see what kind of sound I get from it using my Neumann/Soundelux->Great River front-end :)
 
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