Tascam 2488 adding effects

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andywalt

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Hi there
I wonder if someone could help me with a problem i'm having adding effects using my Tascam 2488. Using the single effect i have added reverb to the vocal track. When I switch to the keyboard track and add delay it automatical change the reverb on the vocal track to delay! Is there anyway i can have different types of effects on different tracks?
Many thanks
Andy
 
The effect can't be both at once. The effect sound gets added to the track sound during playback, it doesn't get recorded permanently. When you change the effect settings it plays back differently. It should be possible to bounce the track with the reverb on it, but then you lose the ability to make adjustments.
 
What Boulder said. You have to bounce the track with the effect on it if you want to make it permanent.

But you have 3 effects sends in the 2488, as well as being able to assign the multi-effects to 4 channels at once, or maybe 8. Can't remember right now.
 
I think you can use only one high quality or multi effect at a time so you can't put reverb on one channel while putting delay on another. I'm not even sure (after a quick scan of the manual) that you can use the channel effects at the same time as the HQ/multi effect. It's an "either/or" choice when you really need it to be "both".
 
There are 3 sends that can definitely be used at the same time. The other effects section was always weird to me, so I didn't use it much. But I think that in the "multi-effects", which are insert effects, you can only have one effect assigned to 4 (or 8) channels, like you said.
 
Ok thanks very much for that. I think I understand it now. So I can add delay to my keyboard track and then bounce it onto another track and then change the single effect to reverb and use that on the vocals?
 
andywalt said:
Ok thanks very much for that. I think I understand it now. So I can add delay to my keyboard track and then bounce it onto another track and then change the single effect to reverb and use that on the vocals?
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Yes....or you can NOT bounce anything, and use 2 single effects. One with reverb, one with delay. Assign the reverb to whatever you want reverb on, and do the same with the delay.
 
The key bit of info seems to be this:

Tascam 2488 manual said:
The 2488 includes high-quality effects that may be
used to enhance your playing.
They may be used in a number of different ways for
use in different stages of the production process.
• Firstly, the effects may be used on up to eight channels
and/or inputs (that is, eight signals in total) as
inserted mic effects.
• Alternatively, up to four mic effects may be used
together with an inserted multi-effect.
• Lastly, a single high-quality effect may be used.
This is fed by the internal LOOP (“Effect send” on
page 23).
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That suggest to me that if one "single high-quality" effect is in use then no other effects can be used at the same time. You can use the "multi-effect" and four channel insert effects at once, or just use eight channel inserts.
 
Lastly, a single high-quality effect may be used.
This is fed by the internal LOOP (“Effect send” on
page 23).
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This is mis-leading and weird. I just fired mine up to make sure. I assigned insert and multi-effects to 4 and 8 channels respectively, and I was always able to assign the 3 different send effects to all 24 channels. (It's actually 2 single sends and 1 "aux", where you can use an out-board effect). The send section is pretty much independent of the insert section.
 
RAMI said:
This is mis-leading and weird. I just fired mine up to make sure. I assigned insert and multi-effects to 4 and 8 channels respectively, and I was always able to assign the 3 different send effects to all 24 channels. (It's actually 2 single sends and 1 "aux", where you can use an out-board effect). The send section is pretty much independent of the insert section.
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I suddenly feel stupid because I can't seem to figure out what you did.

Let's say I want to add a gated reverb to a vocal track, a hall reverb to another track, and then a simple chorus to a third track using the onboard effects; How do I make this happen without bouncing the effects over? Bouncing makes everything permanent, and that may not be a good idea.
 
Sorry man, I had it backwards. There's only one internal effect send and 2 external. They call the internal one "Loop", and the other 2 "Effects". I thought it was 2 internal and 1 external, I was way off.

But anyway, you can still do what you want, but you'd need 2 outboard effects to be able to use all 3 sends.
 
Thanks RAMI. I kept going over the manual and playing with the controls wondering what I was missing. I guess I will have to dig out my effects processor as will the original poster.
 
2488 mk II, should i be able to hear the effect once i assign it to a track or input channel if i have monitor output set to stereo?
 
ok, i figured out that you have to increase the LVL on the send to get the effect. humbled...

does anyone know how to release the effect besides turning the LVL back down to 0? tried pressing 'single' and channel 'select' but that doesn't make it let go.

this is using single effect and internal loop send.

sorry for the hi-jack vs a redundant thread... :-)
 
I'll make the suggestion that you try a recording where you "burn" effects to tracks.

Using a single, inexpensive outboard Lexicon, I would feed it aux out and bring back a stereo pair and assign to two inputs and then two channels. While tracking an e guitar part to say track 5, I would record the guitar clean, w/o efx, but I would also send that signal to the Lexicon, and record the stereo return from it(set on an Echoplex type tape reverb) on say tracks 23/24. I would often do the same with lead and back up vocal parts (using a different Lex setting, say a studio verb) That way at mixdown, I could have multiple effects/reverbs (with only a single unit) but could still blend in just the right amount of dry and wet signal for the needs of the mix. Mind you had to make sure that your effects/verbs didnt clash in the mix, but if one of them were off, you could always track the verb channels over again, taking the output from the clean recorded track. My mixes became much more dimensional after I started doing this.
 
so far i've recorded the guitar(mic'd amp) and the effects(compressor, delay) going into the input channel, then just EQ the track. so far this has been my best result.
i tried using the guitar line in with some effect applied but not really satisfied with it.

also when i use the single effect/internal loop method its either bleeding into the other tracks or gets applied to everything or at least it sounds like it. is there a view to show which effect is assigned to which channel? routing?

still learning but having a ball !
 
Ephi82 said:
I'll make the suggestion that you try a recording where you "burn" effects to tracks.

Using a single, inexpensive outboard Lexicon, I would feed it aux out and bring back a stereo pair and assign to two inputs and then two channels. While tracking an e guitar part to say track 5, I would record the guitar clean, w/o efx, but I would also send that signal to the Lexicon, and record the stereo return from it(set on an Echoplex type tape reverb) on say tracks 23/24. I would often do the same with lead and back up vocal parts (using a different Lex setting, say a studio verb) That way at mixdown, I could have multiple effects/reverbs (with only a single unit) but could still blend in just the right amount of dry and wet signal for the needs of the mix. Mind you had to make sure that your effects/verbs didnt clash in the mix, but if one of them were off, you could always track the verb channels over again, taking the output from the clean recorded track. My mixes became much more dimensional after I started doing this.
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Thats old school thinking and I LIKE IT !!!:thumbs up:
 
Hi, Andy,
I've just joined the forum and noticed your post which is a few months old. Now, you shouldn't have any difficulty using the internal single effect send for reverb on one or more tracks and using the multi-effect button to assign delay to your keyboard. In addition, you can use 2 external effects sends (outboard FX units). I do this all the time with my 2488. Does this sort your problem out?
Cheers!
Astra.

andywalt said:
Hi there
I wonder if someone could help me with a problem i'm having adding effects using my Tascam 2488. Using the single effect i have added reverb to the vocal track. When I switch to the keyboard track and add delay it automatical change the reverb on the vocal track to delay! Is there anyway i can have different types of effects on different tracks?
Many thanks
Andy
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Umm. . . Since this thread keeps blooming anew, perhaps I can ask what is probably a stupid question (those are the ones I do best)?

Unlike my mixer (Soundcraft M4), the 2488 has the two sends, but no dedicated returns. Are the "returns" simply the line inputs, which then have to be assigned to various channels? I sense that I'm not quite getting it, but the manual isn't too helpful to me here. :confused:
 
Aha. Please disregard the previous post. In perusing other postings, I came across essentially the same question, answered very concisely by two people. The explanation made complete sense; even my dog was nodding.

Oh, and to relieve the suspense, YES the returns are the standard line inputs. I think there are a couple of approaches I'm going to try for the external loop, to see what I like the best. This is a great site!
 
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