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[kcearl]

wasnt going to record last week but I dont do anything else...so I did lol

Its long, very long, 9 minutes long...so I dont mind if it slips to page two pretty quickly

I think the first part may struggle for space as its a big bass and a noisy synth part, I cut chunks out of their frequencies, I think it works


Also its a tune of two halves that shares a theme, some patterns, and instruments, which made it difficult to finalise/master..I kinda had to EQ, compress, and limit the half that required more..I imagine it would be best split in two and treated as two separate tracks

anyhoo any listens, comments and/or suggestions gratefully received....hopefully this will be my last this year...off snowboarding for a week after xmas

and have a merry christmas everyone in the clinic

 

[trumpino1]

Holy crap this is a great tune Keith. I like how the lyrics on the first part reach out and slap you in the face and then it settles nicely into a great little jam. You got so many cool effects that you use that I don't know how to comment on them, everything you do is just awesome.

What are the lyrics at the end?

I'm freakin' amazed.

 

[kcearl]

haha cheers trumps

Its a bit of a journey, I like finishing these ones as I dont know where to end it (probably 4 minutes earlier would have been the right thing to do )...the guy at the beginning is Tom Baker..Doctor Who in the 70s early 80s...the sample at the end is "shut the fuck up", which is my wifes favourite phrase when communicating with me for some reason

 

[Tobe]

Apart from the grating intro it was a wonderful stereophonic Techno journey that didn't feel like 8 minutes at all. Your sequencing is top notch, but it seems to me you need to work on the vocal samples.

I want more mystery... I would cut up the vocal sample more and start with "the expression on your face"... then (eventually) "I can tell by the expression on your face” THEN (more eventually) "I can tell by the expression on your face you are putting 2 an 2 together". And play with "2 and 2" and whatever during the climax.

The vocal sample is repeated too often too soon before the song even starts. And then it’s like "I'm glad mandatory vocal sample bit is over".

P.S. I did say the sequencing is top notch.

 

[Tobe]

P.P.S...

Listening again...

The hottest bit for me is the section that starts around 4 minutes, starts dancing around 5 minutes, goes all stereo groovy around 5:30 and it keeps building very nicely from there to the end... Really liquid and juicy.

P.P.P.S. get rid of the "shut the fuck up" sample... Sounds too infantile for the pro sequencing.

 

[Lt. Bob]

I like long stuff ..... most of my own stuff is pretty long since I don't do it for anyone but me.

Mix sounds fine ..... I rarely make mix comments unless something sounds bad since that's really all just a matter of personal taste.
Same thing with what words or samples you use ...... personal taste.

MY personal taste likes this a lot.

 

[heatmiser]

Sounds great to me! Reminds me of a Mazda commercial or something...

Right after it slows down, I pictured you running the whole mix through a wah wah pedal (always wanted to try that) and rocking your foot back n forth, but I guess you have some alternate way to achieve that sound...although that bit did seem oddly noisey, almost as if you did just that.

The whole eneding gets so dense with all the delays and panning and overlap of things, yet you keep everything very distinct. I really liked the way it built up. WHatever those little envelope filter kind of sounds were popping off on either side, they were really cool. I don't have the terminology to correctly identify anything in your music, but maybe you get the general idea of what I'm saying. Didn't feel like a long piece at all.

Happy generic non-denominational holiday season to you...I believe you mentioned somewhere you don't do the christmas thing? (lucky you!).

 

[kcearl]

Apart from the grating intro it was a wonderful stereophonic Techno journey that didn't feel like 8 minutes at all. Your sequencing is top notch, but it seems to me you need to work on the vocal samples.

I want more mystery... I would cut up the vocal sample more and start with "the expression on your face"... then (eventually) "I can tell by the expression on your face” THEN (more eventually) "I can tell by the expression on your face you are putting 2 an 2 together". And play with "2 and 2" and whatever during the climax.

The vocal sample is repeated too often too soon before the song even starts. And then it’s like "I'm glad mandatory vocal sample bit is over".

P.S. I did say the sequencing is top notch.

Thanks man, some good suggestions....I normally glich up vocal parts but I thought just to leave it as I lifted it because of the mangled main synth and bass synth.

I have sometime to work on it this afternoon though in honesty it would probably be best dropped from the beginning altogether, the scratching is a bit silly anyway

P.P.S...

Listening again...

The hottest bit for me is the section that starts around 4 minutes, starts dancing around 5 minutes, goes all stereo groovy around 5:30 and it keeps building very nicely from there to the end... Really liquid and juicy.

P.P.P.S. get rid of the "shut the fuck up" sample... Sounds too infantile for the pro sequencing.

Its kinda just a basic trance sequence but I thought it contrasts well with the more dubstep orientated beginning..kinda black & white difference

I agree with the sample being infantile..I dont really want anything I do being taken serious (I dont expect to blow anyone elses work away) though I like it in the middle the end is probably unnecessary

great comments Tobe

 

[kcearl]

I like long stuff ..... most of my own stuff is pretty long since I don't do it for anyone but me.

Mix sounds fine ..... I rarely make mix comments unless something sounds bad since that's really all just a matter of personal taste.
Same thing with what words or samples you use ...... personal taste.

MY personal taste likes this a lot.

Thanks Boob

It takes me 1 hour of mixing for every minute of tune by the time I automate things etc...its the last 9min tune I do for a while...either that or Im doing a mixing course online

 

[kcearl]

Sounds great to me! Reminds me of a Mazda commercial or something...

Right after it slows down, I pictured you running the whole mix through a wah wah pedal (always wanted to try that) and rocking your foot back n forth, but I guess you have some alternate way to achieve that sound...although that bit did seem oddly noisey, almost as if you did just that.

The whole eneding gets so dense with all the delays and panning and overlap of things, yet you keep everything very distinct. I really liked the way it built up. WHatever those little envelope filter kind of sounds were popping off on either side, they were really cool. I don't have the terminology to correctly identify anything in your music, but maybe you get the general idea of what I'm saying. Didn't feel like a long piece at all.

Happy generic non-denominational holiday season to you...I believe you mentioned somewhere you don't do the christmas thing? (lucky you!).

Thanks Pete....the noise is just cut up parts of the tail of the bass drop repeat in the background, the wah is just a filter...sounds kinda scratchy. I try to play the following synth part on my guitar...I cant even manage those handful of notes well, man I need to get better

and thanks for listening to my stuff over the year...I hope you have a great holiday, Im kinda lucky and unlucky, when we have kids Im sure christmas will be back on the menu so maybe I should just enjoy the peace, and start another tune

 

[heatmiser]

...when we have kids...

The clock is ticking man! But there's still time to bring your life as you know it to a screeching halt...uh, I mean, kids are a blessing (?).

 

[kcearl]

Im on strict orders mate...I expect my 15 year old happy marriage to beer will be coming to an end soon too...bliss

 

[kcearl]

ok so I dumped the scratching, didnt really fit in with the intro, and ive worked on the sample as Tobe mentioned...never went for cutting it up as i thought it might sound a bit hokey

dropped the end "stfu" sample...and its sounding a bit better


thanks tobe, needed a bit of conformation on that as it wasnt sitting right in my head either

 

[PoeticIntensity]

Got through about half of it, and liked what I heard. Will listen to the rest tomorrow when I have more time. Working on a song myself now and I've gotta get ideas out before I fall asleep.

 

[mshilarious]

Needs more jelly babies . . .

 

[kcearl]

Got through about half of it, and liked what I heard. Will listen to the rest tomorrow when I have more time. Working on a song myself now and I've gotta get ideas out before I fall asleep.

maybe do a third tomorrow and the last bit on Tuesday


glad to hear youre on a new tune, havent heard you on something for a while mate (well except the album residing in me car)

Needs more jelly babies . . .

man its got half a packet already

 

[rayc]

Listening now.
I enjoyed Mr B as The Dr.
The travelling bass at the beginning is weird & then you do the popcorn thing but don't - unpopped corn?
your drums are beginnning to get a "real kit" stereo image - careful.
STFU - ah, the penultimate statement in a neighbourhood dispute. Soon to be augmented by the ripost "I swear to god..."
I like the Starcastle style synth riffing at approx 4mins. The rave mix that then envelopes it is, may I say?, a little predictable for your stuff. I mean, it works but I just didn't expect the expected if you follow.
You have a terrific sense of a 3D soundscape in all the stuff you've posted that I've heard.
Lovely brittle piano outro too & the tails on that echo decay beautifully inside my hippy head. (Hippy? Head? Synonyms?).
Trees bon moin shore.
Any likely hood of you venturing into 4.1 or 5.1 mixes?
Cheers

 

[mshilarious]

man its got half a packet already

Yeah, the half that didn't have any was a bit dull. Maybe a new theme for the bit after 5:00 (or whatever, don't have it open at the moment): Exterminate!

 

[kcearl]

Listening now.
I enjoyed Mr B as The Dr.
The travelling bass at the beginning is weird & then you do the popcorn thing but don't - unpopped corn?
your drums are beginnning to get a "real kit" stereo image - careful.
STFU - ah, the penultimate statement in a neighbourhood dispute. Soon to be augmented by the ripost "I swear to god..."
I like the Starcastle style synth riffing at approx 4mins. The rave mix that then envelopes it is, may I say?, a little predictable for your stuff. I mean, it works but I just didn't expect the expected if you follow.
You have a terrific sense of a 3D soundscape in all the stuff you've posted that I've heard.
Lovely brittle piano outro too & the tails on that echo decay beautifully inside my hippy head. (Hippy? Head? Synonyms?).
Trees bon moin shore.
Any likely hood of you venturing into 4.1 or 5.1 mixes?
Cheers

Mr B was the bomb as he had Sladen as a side kick, and i always thought she was cute...I was too young to "get" Jo previously

Im not sure how i would make a surround mix with nothing to reference it on, Id love to as some of the slower stuff would definitely benefit..especially the swoops an sweeps..

The ending was just an extension of a part that was going to fade out really quickly, it isnt that interesting, more practice than anything...Id prolly just cut it off with that ending lead synth fading out/repeating???

Yeah, the half that didn't have any was a bit dull. Maybe a new theme for the bit after 5:00 (or whatever, don't have it open at the moment): Exterminate!

I think you maybe right...its two tunes and one probably shouldnt be developed...or separately It might not sound so mainstream compared to the dubstep influenced beginning


another case of no sketch left unfinished I think

 

[rayc]

2nd listen.
Makes more sense with additional listens - I think the scale & scope is such that I was a little overwhelmed 1st time through. The pice held my attention all the way through both times which means you're doing things well interms of structure and such.
Thanks for the virtual travel - perhaps the folk at Heathrow show plug in whilst sitting.