Surprise, Surprise!

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Richard Monroe

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Well we spent this weekend tracking vocal overdubs. I flew in the 2 ladies from San Diego and Boulder, CO. I started Saturday morning with a mini- mic/pre shootout. Now I had read that often mics and pres used for voiceovers and backing vocals are not the same as for lead vocals, but I think I didn't get it until now.
I have a few choices, but we had limited time, so I didn't get to put up every possible vocal mic by any means. Anyway, I pulled out the likely suspects, in this case, B.L.U.E. Kiwi, Rode NTK, Shure SM7B. Each was run through Avalon AD2022 and Joemeek twinQcs. The Kiwi through the Avalon, which was the combo used for most of the lead vocals, did not cut it. It was too detailed, and made it sound like we were fighting over who was singing lead. NTK was adequate, even pleasing, and has a taste for the Joemeek. SM7B was very nice through the Avalon, and got used for one very dense 5 part mix.
The next morning I was thinking, "Gee, I'm getting blown away by some of the high peaks in these ladies' voices." I'd like to compress and EQ it, but I'm recording *dry tracks* here. Where could I get a darker, airbrushed sound? On a hunch, I put up Oktava MK319 through the Joemeek, with the optocompressor being used only as a tone shaping filter. (threshold maxed out high, ratio at minimum, maximum attack, minimum release). That way, the compressor does nothing except be in the signal chain, which *does* change the sound.
Holy cow, it worked! The 319 is a mic I just have 'cause it was cheap, and I figured it would turn out to be good for something. It never has been a mic I would choose for my voice, but it paid for itself in one day, as we tracked 6 songs with it. The point is, you never know what will sound good on a given source, especially vocals, until you put up the mic and track it.
Who would've thunk? A $2000 main vocal mic and a $2000 class A pre in house, and we wound up using a $99 condenser jacked into a Joemeek! Cool.-Richie
 
I should be on Taylor Johnson's payroll but I've been liking the 319 for a long time. But I definately get your point, I kind of had the same experience with a C-3000.:eek: Swear to God.
 
The 319 sounds similar to a Sennheiser 421 with one click away from "M" on the bass roll-off dial.

So there's an excellent chance a 421 also is excellent for your vocalist too. The Meek compression tends to work well with these types of mikes, including a SM57 BTW.

Chris
 
I love my 319. Don't always have to spend alot to get alot. With only 1 exception I have never owned any low end gear that I didn't find at least one GOOD use for sooner or later.
 
That hunk of sh*t, worst thing I've ever heard, good for nothing, waste of atoms, could not find ONE f**kin use for it, thank god I didn't spend the $1000 the went for new, wouldn't even wipe my a** with it.....ART SGX2000.

I'm not fan of ART. It's really a low end company, however I picked up the SGX2000 and the X-15 midi pedal for $150 on ebay and figured...well I'll try it direct and maybe I can use it for just an extra guitar patch for when friends drop by and want to jam alittle down in the studio...figured it doesn't really have to sound good, just passable. I spent HOURS on that thing, and there is not 1 good sound on it. I sold it a few weeks later for $300 on Ebay...so it did have one use for me...made me money. I really felt bad taking $300 for it, but the bidding just kept going up.:rolleyes:
 
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Hmmm... I've never used one, but I remember seeing a friend's band where the guitarist had one - 1000 different sounds during the concert and all of them sucked!!!:D

Steve
 
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