Suggestions for additions or subtractions...

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Here is what I have in my home studio:

Alesis Monitor Ones
Alesis RA-100 Amp
Alesis NanoComp & NanoVerb
Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer
(3) SM-57's
(1) SM-58

Dell 700Mhz PIII computer, 30GB HD, 128 MB ram, 19" monitor, 8XCD R/W, running:
Cakewalk Pro Audio 9
Sonic Foundry Vegas Pro 2.0 (I believe)
Delta 66 PCI Audio Interface (http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM99/Midiman/Delta-66.html)Various Plug-Ins

Sony MD-Recorder/Player

Ensoniq SD-1 Synth
Roland Alpha Juno-2
Roland U110
Korg 0/5R
Kawai K-1r
Yamaha FB-01

Taylor 314CE guitar
Fender Strat

As far as recording goes the quality is pretty good. What else should I be looking for to add onto my equipment list. I record mostly myself, but sometimes I record others as well. Any suggestions! I have a couple of pictures post here..

http://www.delongwebdesign.com./equip.html
 
Great setup joker - you need to put all the neat gear into a decent room, that's all you really need...some good acoustics and you'll get the maximum out of that extensive gear....drool :)

cheers
John
 
AHA! John's WRONG! AHAHAHAHA!

hehe

Buy a condenser mic. Maybe an NT-1 to start out with.

Tube preamp (especially with the condeser mic, make that diphragm sing!)

Drum kit. Cheap Pearls with Sabian B-8s are what we use, they're cheap and sound good enough. Even if you don't play, they're GREAT for inspiration.

Marker Board.

Chair with armrests. Cup holders optional.

Headphones. Sony MDR-7506's are good and cheap.

Sustain Pedals? MORE sustain pedals?

Bass Guitar (and don't tell me you think the keyboard sounds like a real bass). Maybe a cheap Jazz Bass knockoff.

Chet Atkins/Willie Nelson nylon string guitar.



It looks like you do the keyboard and acoustic thing. You'd probably dig the vocal and drum thing. I do the dumb thing, run around with wires thing...

:D
 
Thanks...

Thanks for your suggestions. My sickness is to keep on buying stuff if it's a good deal, but sometimes what I buy is not practical for my setup. I do a lot of keyboard stuff, but just got into playing my acoustic guitar religiously with another acoustic player.

I would definately like to get a condensor mic. What would you suggest for the mic preamp?

As for the drumset, I would rather play the real thing rather than hammering it out on the keyboards, as well as the bass guitar.


The marker board is a good idea to get my ideas out in front of me. I usually organize everything on the computer and it usually disappears!

Thanks again. Time to do some more research!

Steve
 
My advice for the drumset issue (apologies if this is second hand to you; if not, read on):

Definitely consider buying a used kit. For a plain old knock-around, you should be able to find something for 300-500 bucks. Make sure the kit has the rims for the bottom heads; you'll want them eventually even if you think you don't now. Any knick or gouges in the bearing edges will screw up your tuning; if in doubt, take a few heads off and check, particularly the bottom heads, as those can get really abused if they were left off for an extended time. Most lower end kits are mahogany, while higher end are maple and birch. Not because they are better, but because the tonal qualities of those woods are in favor right now. I happen to like the sound of mahogany; you skip a lot of the overtone issues you get with maple. Spend some money to put decent heads on the kit, and spend some time tuning. This is a plug, but just go out and buy an Aquarian Super Kick 2 for your base drum; they are pricey (about $35 for a 22"), but I have this on two of my kits and have put them on about three kits for friends of mine, and they all sound fantastic. Evans also makes a version of this that is nice.

Get a reasonable snare. Metal is fine; the ludwig supraphonic is probably featured on over half of the recordings out there, and used ones are everywhere. Old ones can be pitted because chrome doesn't stick to alluminum (oh, sorry, ludalloy), but they sound great. Avoid cheap CB snares and the like; a snare is 50% of your drum sound, you need to be able to crank it up tight and have it sound good. Check the snare throw-offs.

Get a good throne. This can be a big source of noise and a wobbly one will adversly affect your playing.

The big thing is cymbals. With drums, good heads and good tuning can make just about any drum sound okay, but a cymbal will only sound like what it is. It's sound will never get better, there's no way to change it. Every 'major' manufacturer (Zildgian, Paiste, Sabian) has top and bottom-of-the-line cymbals; just because it has there name on it doesn't mean it's any good. Cheap cymbals will sound cheap, and they'll break (well, they all can break.... but that means you're using the wrong cymbal or the wrong technique). New cymbals can be expensive; you would probably spend at least $600 for a hi-hat/crash/ride combo. Most of the majors sell pre-packs, with all of these packed in one box. A good place to start, if you happen to want those models for every cymbal. Look at used cymbals in music shops; check for cracks or keyholes (an elongation of the hole you mount the cymbal on) - both mean that you will have to baby it, and it's days are numbered. Be aware that buying cymbals off the internet is touchy; most drummers would never buy a cymbal that they had not heard personally. Zildgians can vary widely, paiste is generally considered to be more consistant (again, this isn't bad or good, just worth considering).

finally, don't skimp on your pedals. These are your only connections to hi hats and bass, so you should be comfortable with them. This doesn't mean spending a lot of money. Different pedals feel, well, different, and some systems will feel more intuitive to you than others. I had a DW chain drive with a round cam, and tried it for months, but it never felt right. Switched to a $20 speedking, and it all fell into place. so don't worry about spending a lot, just find a system that works for you.
 
Hey Kelly - you failed to point out where I was wrong :)
You gear freeeks.....sure he might need a condensor mike WITH a f***kn TUBE pre, but it will still sound like shit in a shit room.

Record with a great mike in a bad acoustic environment and you still get a well recorded Bad acoustic environment.

Give me a shure SM57 in a good environment over a super condensor in a bedroom anyday.

I didn't see anything in his room to suggest that he had anything but a standard bedroom to record in. ;)

cheers
John
 
Your dog is UGLY, John. UGLY UGLY UGLY.

:D

You NEED headphones, joker. And I like your setlist, ya'll seem to be where we are from the looks of your photos...
 
Too funny...

Nothing like a good pissing match to try and help somebody, all in good fun. I do have a pair of headphones and I think they are the ones you listed.

And your right John it's nothing but a bedroom. I need some bass traps for the corners and probably some stuff to hang on the wall.

Unfortunately I don't want to spend to much money right now on permanent acoustic treatment as I might be moving soon (military housing). I can't wait to buy my own house so I can start a permanent structure for a studio.

On that note, what would you suggest for acoustic treatment for a someone who is always on the move every 3-4 years?

Thanks Kevin for your master thesis on drum sets! (not being smart, just a wealth of knowledge, that's great, thank you!!) I'm actually thinking of getting some Roland V-Pro's so I can tie them into my midi setup. It gives me more options of drum sets, and let's me cheat on not having to mic everything. Especially if my room sounds like shit...Probably by the time I save up to buy them I'll be moving anyways.

Thanks again guys for your help...I checked out the studio web site you guys are all in and it's pretty cool to see some of the home studios people have. I'm always intrigued by what other people have.

And Kelly to answer your question...I'm in Washington D.C. I play out in Alexandria, Virginia alot. Great city to play in but I'm ready to move....

Thanks again!

Steve

Ps. John what kind of dog do you have?
 
Steve,
One last thing for you, and I promise this won't take five minutes to read. I've got some info at home about electronic kits; I'll bring it in and post it on Monday. I don't personally own an electronic kit, but I've collected some stuff in case I find some money on the sidewalk. Basically, look at some options; you can buy cheaper pads, by pintech, for example, and put more money in a brain (not YOUR brain, mind you.....). Everyone I know with a Roland set just loves them... but there are also people that say you're paying too much for the pads. There are sites with info on building your own pads for cheap. More info and links later, take care

K
 
Thanks Kevin

Thanks for your info...would be great to save some money. Those ProV's are way up there...
 
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