Studio design... how bad does this look

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heres a phase 1 studio plan i've come up with...
it's above a garage (neither built yet) so the plans can still radically change..
there are some absorber panels on the plan but my 3d was not accecpting changes to them so they dont look right...
Questions:
1. too many straignt walls? is there a minimum angle for effectiveness (my prog only seems to do 22.5/45/ etc
2. windows = real bad?
3. would decoupled drywall and floating floors be enough isolation? (with bass traps, absorbors, and diffusers)..
4. layout look o.k.?

thanks for any feedback...
 

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> 1. too many straignt walls? <

That's not a problem, but I see many others.

One problem is the control room is too small and is also nearly square. If you can make it at least 16 feet front to back you'll do a lot better. Can you use the entire depth?

Another problem is the walled-off front corners. Do not do that! Make the corners square and put bass traps there. Likewise for the upper right corner in the live room.

Another problem is the doors in the back are too close to the corners, precluding putting bass traps there. Do you see a theme here? :D

--Ethan
 
yes i see.. thanks ethan... bass traps bass traps bass traps ... i will edit it today and see if i cant add all that to it.... any recommendation on where to put the vocal booth, amp iso closets?

actually. (sorry for my bad 3d) .. the top middle corners in the live room...were bass traps.. i just dont have a good cad representation of them..
 
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> any recommendation on where to put the vocal booth, amp iso closets? <

That all looks pretty good as is.

--Ethan
 
Your monitor soffits don't reflect reality. Monitor enclosures have DEPTH. When you go to build mixing/engineering position/monitor axis from this plan, you may experience a good lesson in hindsight. Draw in reality based scale of things like this. Assumptions will lead to a stop in your construction workflow. Here is an example.

Assuming those are actually monitor soffits, your monitors neet to be placed where they are NOT in a null, which means they will be higher than your ears when sitting at the engineering position. That translates into the vertical face of the monitor soffit baffle being at an angle, perpendicular to the vertical axis between the cone center and your ear height. That translates into a soffit geometry at the ceiling being larger than at the floor. Most architectural plan conventions are actually a plan section of a room or building at 48" off the finish floor. In this case, your section view will NOT reflect the true nature of canted vertical surfaces, let alone the floor and ceiling juncture geometry, This will lead to error in distance and geometry judgement when doing layouts of this nature, not to mention when it comes time to frame these soffits.

All this assumes those ARE monitor soffits. Otherwise, what purpose would they serve?

And btw, from my understanding soffit baffles should be sized according wavelength/crossover/ and response of the actual components in the enclosure to achieve the correct coupling of the speakers and the air.

http://www.quarter-wave.com/General/BSC_Sizing.pdf
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thanks rick ..
im still kinda calculating that one... youre saying the soffits need to be angled to point the tweeters towards my ears?, and theyre not big enough to house the monitors (???)
..well..... i enlarged them in this plan to 4' across front, about 2 feet deep... would i be better off without soffits? bass traps in the corners?

Here is an undated plan with the badly drawn bass traps removed.. enlarged control room, enlarged soffits

Ethan, do i need bass traps in all corners (ideally) the main door to the live room can only be moved by shortening the control room... but the closet doors could be moved easily... i didnt know if non-90* corners needed bass traps or not.. main door to the control room is kinda stuck too.. unless anyone has any ideas


thanks for all the help
 

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Hello seismetr0n. Here is a layout of my soffit geometry. Its all I have time for at the moment. I'll be back tomorrow.
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ah yes i understand.. i actually saw your other pictures on the other post this morning (angle cutting) do i want to isolate the monitors from the soffits or join them together... i.e. could i just build them straight and rest my monitors on their mo-pads..?

Rick- i checked out your site... what do you use those boxes for (plywood.. colorful)?
 
the mini grand will be dropped in by helicopter.. :) .. at the same time as the hottub (not shown)
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i added a hottub real quick - for all the fly honeys !!!
 

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seismetr0n said:
the mini grand will be dropped in by helicopter.. :)
:)
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i added a hottub real quick - for all the fly honeys !!!
Click to expand...

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet
 
> do i need bass traps in all corners <

It can only help.

> the main door to the live room can only be moved by shortening the control room <

Then get a trap on a stand, or hang it from the ceiling on chains so you can push it aside, or skip that corner but put even more trapping elsewhere.

> i didnt know if non-90* corners needed bass traps or not <

Yes, ideally all corners will have traps including those at the tops of the walls. Even the wall-floor corners are good, such as in the front of the room if that's out of the way.

Here's another thought: If you make the front angled wall sections from homasote covered with a thin wood veneer, and stuff those entire front corner cavities with fluffy fiberglass, you'll have good bass trapping there and bass will be able to pass through the homasote to get to those traps.

--Ethan
 
.. i like the idea of more trapping elsewhere... probably 4 corners in the live room.. and trap all along the ceiling between it and the control room...

what is homasote?

thanks
 
> what is homasote? <

It's a board material made from paper pulp, sort of like office ceiling tiles but without the fissures and holes. It's a very common material.

--Ethan
 
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