stereo typical "best guitarists"

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i couldnt think of what else to title this. why is like--the stereo typical awesome guitarist one that solos? i mean soloing is such a small aspect of guitar as a whole, but its the one that if you see a guy thats soloing, it's like "wow, he's sick" ..but for the most part, that was the easiest point to get to. learning chords is the hardest part about learning guitar, then it progresses from there.


the reason i say this is because, i mean, i'm not much of a soloer, more of a rhythm/lead vocalist player. what am i gonna be looked at as a shitty guitarist because i dont bust out a solo every song? i mean i can play some, not a whole lot. i've put nearly all my effort for the past few years to singing and playing at the same time, and ive got it down pretty good. i've gotten decent at fingerpicking, and a slight bit of tapping.

sorry for my rant.
 
tom18222 said:
i couldnt think of what else to title this. why is like--the stereo typical awesome guitarist one that solos? i mean soloing is such a small aspect of guitar as a whole, but its the one that if you see a guy thats soloing, it's like "wow, he's sick" ..but for the most part, that was the easiest point to get to. learning chords is the hardest part about learning guitar, then it progresses from there.


the reason i say this is because, i mean, i'm not much of a soloer, more of a rhythm/lead vocalist player. what am i gonna be looked at as a shitty guitarist because i dont bust out a solo every song? i mean i can play some, not a whole lot. i've put nearly all my effort for the past few years to singing and playing at the same time, and ive got it down pretty good. i've gotten decent at fingerpicking, and a slight bit of tapping.

sorry for my rant.
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I agree with you man..but people just look as it being the cooler thing..people just going crazy with guitar stuff...idk, its an attention grabber...and people will pride themselves on it haha. I do like soloing, its sometimes cool..but chords and things like that are the more important things, i'll agree with u there.
 
Every song with a guitar solo is not a wankfest.Just like every song without
one doesnt automatically suck.
If you are content to be a vocalist/rythm guitarist, then dont worry about
it.If you would like to be a vocalist/well rounded guitarist,then dont be to
quick to discount soloing.
If you want to be a good soloist, you need to know and understand scales
and modes.Knowing and understanding them will give you a far greater in sight into chords than you could ever have without them.
Soloing is just a tool of the trade.Better to have your tools and not need
them than it is to need them and not have them.
Just my .02
 
Just do what you do... but do it well. There is a lot more to a band than just some fancy guitar licks. Too many people confuse lead guitar and shread guitar. It's not all about being lightning fast and doing runs that seem to go on forever. It's more about being able to express (with guitar) the mood of a song. Singing requires attention, so does playing rythm guitar, if you do both then you are carrying a fair share of the musical load. If you feel your music needs more elaborate guitar you have two options, either get better yourself or add another guitarist. Be happy that you can sing and play guitar at the same time, a lot of good guitar players became good to make up for their lack of vocal ability.
 
So do you really think Steve Cropper and Keith Richards get no respect?
 
soloing ??

i cant sing at all ....... thats what the singer is for ... i play in a 3 pcs band ..... when it comes time for me to solo ...... thats where the fun starts ...... yeah sometimes i go a little long w/ my solo's ..... as long as we all feel it and the crowd is into it ...... why not ...... yeah i get that look from the singer [my wife] .... ohh well
 
At which point we ask about singers who clutch at guitars as props during their erratic ululation and over emoting of lyrics about frog spawn?
I've recorded 4 solos in 30 years of playing - I wouldn't suggest that any of them work! I do love a GOOD solo. I do loath shredding. I do pay attention to the bassist most (being one - albiet a poor one). I do need the drummer to propel me as well as the song. I do like singing on songs.
It's all catagorisation - Cool lead guitarist, cool rhythm guitarist (I do LOVE rhythm type solos), cool singer, cool drummer dude, uber cool bassmaniac.
I do wish people would pay much more attention to guitar techs though - look what happened when Tool paid attention to them!
Oh & I do like a twin guitar attack a la Thin Lizzy - that stereotype of solo is ultra uber cool. But that would be stereotypical of me to say wouldn't it?
 
solo's

yeah its cool that i have a thundering bass player and a drummer that just wont quit to play w/ .... we just plain click ..... some of the jams we get into are pure magic ..... we all follow each other .... a drum roll, a bass run, a rif from my guitar ..... and we can turn in a completly new direction ...... damm playing live is soo cool
 
I think it's because a guitarist who cansolo, regardless of whether he does or not, is more skilled than one who cannot solo. Chances are that the really good guitarists who don't solo, could if they wanted to, but choose not to.

And yes, skill and technique isn't neccessarily the be all and end all. But to me, this is a conversation about skill and technique, if we are talking about a comment that assesses the ability of a guitarist.

This does'nt mean that all super fast solos are good, of course.
 
solo

yeah but the solo's seem to set me free .... what ever mood i am in seems to pour out of my amp's .........
 
If you can reach the stage where there is no difference between rhythm and lead playing; you are soloing all the time, but also always playing a rhythm, and never taking a solo . . . it will make beer shoot out your nose, man :cool:
 
beer out the nose ?

not quite there yet ........ but now i have something to work on ...... yeah thats going to be the coolest ... layin down a solid rhythm while playing a kick ass solo .... and shooting beer across the stage from my nose .. covering the bass player in beer w/ green chuncks in it ......... ok i will try it this weekend
 
tom18222 said:
i'm not much of a soloer, more of a rhythm/lead vocalist player. what am i gonna be looked at as a shitty guitarist because i dont bust out a solo every song?
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If you're a great singer, you'll get a pass on any subpar guitar playing. The opposite is not true. If your solos are amazing but you can't sing many more people will notice. If you're bad at both then good luck.
 
tom18222 said:
i couldnt think of what else to title this. why is like--the stereo typical awesome guitarist one that solos?

sorry for my rant.
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You're on the right track. Soloing is fun and flashy, but an often overlooked facet of guitar playing is just doing what it takes to make the song great.

Great example - Guster's current hit, 'Satellite'....no guitar solos per se, no technical fireworks, but still, great guitar parts that make the song pop.
 
Dani Pace said:
Be happy that you can sing and play guitar at the same time, a lot of good guitar players became good to make up for their lack of vocal ability.
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That's about where I'd fall. I can sing, or I can play guitar. It's not that I haven't tried, and I still try on occasion, but I gotta get my mind around sometimes singing different notes than what I'm playing.

Matt
 
mshilarious said:
If you can reach the stage where there is no difference between rhythm and lead playing; you are soloing all the time, but also always playing a rhythm, and never taking a solo . . . it will make beer shoot out your nose, man :cool:
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Pete Townshend
 
Just because someone takes a lot of solos doesn't mean they are a good soloist, and just because someone doesn't take a lot of solos doesn't mean they aren't a good soloist.

I can't think of a single great soloist I've played with that insisted on taking solos on almost every song. In my experience, the one's forcing solos into everything are the wankers with a need to boost their ego and with very little to say musically. There is a hell of a lot more to being a good musician than being a good soloist, but a good well rounded musician should be a competent soloist.

Everyone that I've ever played with that plays sax or trumpet or harp, etc. can solo at least passably. The really good ones always impress me with how well they can comp tastefully when they are not soloing. Those are the ones that I call when I need someone for a gig.

Back to the original post in this thread. If you are happy with your playing, then who cares what anyone else thinks?? If you are not a good soloist and want to be a more well rounded musician, then learn to solo. Remember, (good) soloing isn't about shredding, it's about telling a story. You already have enough chops to solo if you can play your instrument. It's about learning to say things in that context (and of course building your chops will help give you options) .
 
"I think it's because a guitarist who cansolo, regardless of whether he does or not, is more skilled than one who cannot solo."

WHAT??????????????????????????
What about the guitarist who solos but shouldn't? What about the soloist who really is appaling at rhythm?
What???
 
solo's

the most important part of soloing is to know when to solo ...... and when not too
 
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