Steinberg CI1 vs Fast Track USB

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Hey all,

I'm on the ropes about these 2 audio devices. I am using a Macbook Pro and I just record voice overs. I am looking for a device that CAN work without drivers.

I really like the CI1 cause of the line inputs and 2 XLR as opposed to the 1 on FT.

I also own a M-Audio Mobilepre and while M-Audio suggest you install drivers, it is recognized under mac osx and works with the drivers.
 
Fast Track pre amp gain 40 db (weak) signal to noise ratio 100db
CI1.........pre amp gain 60 db (better) signal to noise ratio 96 db

Here's some info I compiled since there are so many trying to compare interfaces:


2 of the most important issues with interface quality are:

The pre-amp (how much gain it has) as well as quality (how quiet it is)
-cheaper units are usually in the 50db gain range or less.
better ones are in the 60-80db range
Phantom power needed for condenser mics

Many have posted in forums that they cannot get enough gain to get proper recording levels with some of the cheaper units. If you have to run the pre-amp full volume you get more noise too!
(M audio profire 610= Adjustable Gain >53dB without pad)
(Presonus firestudio mobile=Gain Control Range (± 1 dB) ?10 dB to 70 dB)
Signal to noise ratio around 100db or higher is good too.

The other factor is the quality of the digital converter.
one of the specs to look for is Jitter. listed in Picoseconds
the higher the jitter number the lower the accuracy of
consistent sampling intervals (translates to loss of clarity.

Not all publish these specs in their documentation.
(Jet PLL Jitter Elimination Technology)

Check manufacturer website for compatible driver for the operating system you are using on your puter.

Pre-amp specs most Interfaces under $600

Presonus Audio Box (USB)
Gain Control Range (± 1dB) 0 dB to 35 dB (weak)
S/N Ratio (Unity Gain, Ref. = +4 dBu, 20Hz to 22 kHz) > 95 dB
24 bit 44.1 or 48khz

Lexicon Alpha (USB)
+44db gain no phantom power
S/N ratio not listed
24 bit 44.1 or 48khz

Lexicon Lambda (USB)
+44db gain
S/N ratio not listed
24 bit 44.1 or 48khz

Lexicon Omega (USB)
+50db gain
S/N ratio not listed
24 bit 44.1 or 48khz

Presonus FireStudio Project (firewire in-out)
Gain Control Range (± 1dB) -4 dB to 50dB
S/N Ratio (Unity Gain, unwtd, Ref. = +4dBu, 20Hz to 22KHz) >101dB
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96

M Audio Profire 610 /2626 (firewire)
Gain 53 db
S/N ratio -108 db (610) -109 db (2626)
24 bit 44.1-192khz

Mbox / Mbox Mini Gen3 (usb)
Gain range 54 db
S/N ratio -110 db(Mbox) -106 db (Mini)
24 bit up to 96k (Mbox) up to 48 kHz sample rates (mini)

Presonus FireStudio (firewire in-out)
Gain Control Range (+/-1dB) -6dB to 55dB
S/N Ratio (Unity Gain, unwtd, Ref. = +4dBu, 20Hz to 22KHz) >101dB
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96

Lexicon I Onix U42S (USB)
+55 db gain
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, or 96 kHz

Lexicon I Onix U82S (USB)
+55 db gain
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, or 96 kHz

Lexicon I-Onix U22 (USB)
+58db gain
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, or 96 kHz

Motu Ultralite MK3 (firewire bus pwr/ usb2 w/external pwr)
60 dB of adjustment for the mic input and 32 dB for the TRS input
24 bit up to 192Khz

Presonus FireStudio mobile (firewire in-out)
Gain Control Range (± 1 dB) ?10 dB to 70 dB
S/N Ratio >101 dB
24 bit 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz

Apogee Duet (firewire bus power) Mac only
Mic pre gain 10-75 db
24-bit/96kHz audio input and output

Line 6 UX series specs not listed

Most of the older M Audio Mobile pre and Fast Track models are in the 50 db gain range

Other specs / info about digital recording

16 bit = 6 db per bit dynamic range = 96db
24 bit = 6 db per bit dynamic range= 144 db

Even though burning to CD at 16 bits the increased dynamic range and freq response of 24 bit vice 16 bit increases headroom and clarity when recording.

Most A/D converters in this price range anyway can only produce a dynamic range of 100-120 db so you are limited by the converter when recording at 24 bit (dynamic range of 144 db) but its still better than 16 bit.
 
Thanks for tech details this stuff is really helpful.

I'm hoping to get some feedback of anyone who uses or owns one of these and to get driver info.

I owned the Mbox2 Mini and it's a good box but the driver would send my system into a kernel panic every time.
 
In case any one cares, I bought the CI1 and this is my first impression.
I chose the CI1 over the Fast Track cause its 20 bucks cheaper, the CI1 is supposed to be a better box and I decided to use the M-Audio Mobilepre (2nd gen) on the go and leave the CI1 connected to my home system.

The CI1 is bigger & heavier than the Mobilepre.
The CI1 does not work without the drivers, the Mobilepre does.
The Mobilepre and FT come with pro tools SE - (Good)
CI1 comes with Wavelab - (Good) & Sequel - (wack IMO!)

Both boxes are great. I like the M-Audio's but the CI1 is a great deal for $100!
 
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