SPX-90 or 90 II as a vocal harmonizer?

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You can use it, but the Pitch Shift in the SPX90 is not really for that kind of effect.......

It will work, it just won't give you the results I think you're expecting.........!
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
You can use it, but the Pitch Shift in the SPX90 is not really for that kind of effect.......

It will work, it just won't give you the results I think you're expecting.........!
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Thanks Blue Bear, great site yoy have, by the way.

I can pick one up for cheap, and was originally thinking of getting a vocal harmonizer for some quick background vocal recording, but thought about the SPX-90 because I could get more bang for the buck.

When u say "I can use it" do u mean I can use it as a vocal harmonizer, just not by the pitch change capability?

Thanks
 
No... I meant it's not an effective vocal harmonizer (actually, it's not ANY kind of harmonizer!)....

It's a multi-effect unit, much like the TC Electronics or Lexicon stuff (only it's older!)
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
No... I meant it's not an effective vocal harmonizer (actually, it's not ANY kind of harmonizer!)....

It's a multi-effect unit, much like the TC Electronics or Lexicon stuff (only it's older!)
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Oh yes, I know all about the SPX-90 specs and it's history, just wondering if that pitch change deal would give me what I want....

thanks.
 
I don't think it will...!

I find the Pitch Shift on it is NOT one of its strong points... LOTS of artifacts!

It has nice short ambient effects and nice "old-style" chorus.... and the flange/phase effects are very usable, as are the delays and auto-panning.....

Never cared for the pitch shift stuff on it, though! ;)
 
If you want to use a pitch shifter for backing vocals it needs to be able to use the proper key and chord voicings for the song. Otherwise all you get are 3rds or 5ths that will work for some parts but not all of them.
 
The terms "pitch shifter" and " harmonizer" are sometimes used to mean the same thing, even by companies like steinberg and waves' who oughtta know better

the SPX-90 has a pitch shifter, and NOT a harmonizer

Like tex says, a harmonizer will shift INTERVALS, and only intervals that fit correctly inside a certain KEY

The Eventide H3000, DSP4000 and some others of their line, along with the Digitech 2101 and TSR, and a new plug in form AKAI for VST, are all harmonizers

Most of the stuff out there are actually CHROMATIC pitch shifters which ALWAYS shift by the amount you tell it and give no account for out of key notes but shift to them anyhow...

The SPX90, most plugins and most hardware are pitch shifters and not harmonizers
 
Although if you are doing Gregorian chants it will work fine.
 
TexRoadkill said:
Although if you are doing Gregorian chants it will work fine.
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LMAO!:D ...and watch those parallel fifth's and octaves too.:D

When I saw the title of the thread I knew those numbers but couldn't place it. I've used that before, a long time ago. It's a pretty decent unit as I remember.

They say the mind is the second thing to go though. I can't remember the first.
 
TexRoadkill said:
If you want to use a pitch shifter for backing vocals it needs to be able to use the proper key and chord voicings for the song. Otherwise all you get are 3rds or 5ths that will work for some parts but not all of them.
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Thanks for all the responses...Tex, I didn't even think about the key and chord voicing issues, had I, I wouldn't have even asked the question. I talked to my buddy afterwards and he mentioned basically the same thing, with regards to his Digitech Harmonizer....

Regards,

Fresh!
 
Holy shit, I didn't even see this one...

There's two others just like it in the Newbie and Recording Techniques forums...

Wonder if there's any more :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
no, TM...didn't post anywhere else, just wanted to get a cross-section of responses, since the same folk don't all hang out in the same forums...or so I thought....:o
 
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