Splitting a microphone signal - Phantom?

[DeadPoet]

Sorry for dumbass question

Say I want to split a signal coming from a microphone (for live recording). One end going to the mixing board, another to my recorder. I know simple splitting can be done by just wiring a second microphone cable to the first one.

But now, phantom power. I would love to add some ambience microphones which wil not go through the front mixer but require phantom. The pre's I want to use are of the "all or nothing at all"-phantom-type . Problem rising there is that the other condensors the front-mixer is using already had phantom and those mic's will also pass my pre's.
What would be the best thing to do ? Simply ask the FOH mixer to turn of his phantom and only use mine ?

TIA and happy holidays everybody,
Herwig

 

[flatrockrecordin]

The proper way to split is with an isolated splitter. They are available in single channel or multi-channel. An Isolated splitter has one input and usually one hard wired output and one transformer isolated output. Phantom power should be passed thru the hard wired out, and the audio will apear at both. If you need more than 2 or 3 splitters, you should probably rent a "splitter snake". These usually have a stage box and 2 "tails" to go to FOH and recording consoles. Hope this helps.

 

[mixsit]

Are you splitting all the other mics, or just taking a board mix, plus the amb. mics?
If there are extra chanels on the mixer, you could use that phantom but keep it out of the front mix and split, or how about you take your own aux mix off the board that includes the amb. mics.
Another option is your own stand-alone phantom supply, which is about the same cost as a splitter with a transformer out.
It depends on your routing...
Wayne

 

[DeadPoet]

thx for the replies.

flatrockrecordin: I know these splitting boxes, but don't havce the cash to buy one. I always though splitting a microphone signal jsut by wiring a second cable to the +, - and ground would change the impednce of the signal, but not degrade the signal in a noticable way (= the way I always see stageboxes with splitter built-in)

mixsit: I really want a multitrack recording of the performance. The stand-alone phantom could be a way to go.. I was by now thinking of getting the phantom of the FOH-board, but just muting those channels at his side..


Herwig