sp b1 vs. mxl v67g

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ive heard alot of praise about these mics but dont know of their similarities or differences. how does each compare sound wise and for what type of vocals? is one more intended for more screaming and yelling or are they both pretty much smooth singing mics?
 
The SP B1 is a very neutral-sounding mic and can work well on vox for singers that have a strong, full voice. The B1 also works very well on a variety of sources, including acoustic guitar, amps, drums, drum OH's, percussion. The B1 is every bit as versatile as SM57's and 414's.

The V67 is a more colored mic that's a bit on the dark side. It can work very well for singers who have thin voices and need to thicken things a bit to sound good. The V67 also is a good amp mic and can be used for drum OH's.

If you're just looking for a vox mic and you're not really an experienced singer, I'd recommend the V67.

As far as how you sing or the "style" i.e. screaming, crooning, smooth - it doesn't matter. Both mics can work for that. For real screamers, though, you might be better off with a dynamic, like the SM57, SM7 or 421.

Hope that helps.

Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
 
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What Dot said. His comments are spot on.-Richie
 
Also, if it matters to you, the SPB1 has a self-noise running around 12db while the V67G runs about 20db. Using the B1 to record voice alone, with no backing music, I've found it to be VERY quiet.
 
wow, and I was about to ask the same question.... mmmkay. Thanks.
 
I would just get both of them. under 200 bucks ?

I already had a V67g and just ordered a B1.

From what I have been reading, the B1 seems to be a more neutral versatile mic.

Malcolm
 
Dan, as usual, is exactly right.

These happen to be my two main vocal mics. The 67 works better on my voice, which is rather thin, uncertain and underdeveloped. It makes me sound BETTER than I am, which is always appreciated.

The B1 works better on my main singer, a super strong baritone with a powerful mid-range. That mic also works GREAT, IMHO, as a mic on an acoustic guitar track. I used it several feet away, in conjunction with a small diaghram condenser close-in. Magic!

I think they compliment each other quite well, for us bottom feeders at least!

Fab
 
Dot said:
The V67 is a more colored mic that's a bit on the dark side.
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The MXL V67G is NOT a dark mic IMO and the V67G can be used on anything the B1 can.
 
Well, again DJL, I fear your anti-Studio Projects bias is showing through. Sure, you can use a 67 on anything you want - there's no law against it! Does is SOUND as GOOD as the B1 on everything? Not hardly.

Take acoustic guitar. Take an already thick-voiced male singer.

At least, in my humble spare-bedroom studio, the B1 sounded better. You may not trust my ears or believe what I say, but that doesn't change what I heard.

Respectfully,

Fab
 
Fab4ever, the MXL V67G is NOT a dark mic IMO.
Do you think the V67G is a dark mic?
 
DJL,

I didn't say it was dark. I probably haven't listened with care to enough microphones to say when any mic is dark. However, it seems to my ear to emphasize certain low mids. That can be pleasing, as it is with my relatively wimpy voice, or it can be muddy, as it seems to be with my already bassy Washburn acoustic or with my lead singer's strong baritone. If I gave the impression it was a DARK mic I am sorry - it probably isn't the right shortcut word, at least not for me to use. More practiced ears may hear DARK in the V67, for all I know.

Bassier, bigger in the mids - I don't know what the right term is, but that's what my ears in my room with my setup have told me.

The B1 is, relatively speaking, LESS midrangey/bassy to my ear. My acoustic guitar sounds less boxy with the B1. My friend's BIG voice sounds better thru it.

Anyway, that's what I have heard with my own ears. It seems to me with the V67, the B1 and my just-purchased MXL V93 (2003), I have a trio of cheapo Chinese large diaphram condensers that go from rather bassy to rather trebly. Now someday I'd love to have a high-end tube mic, a Blueberry and a 414, but with my bank account I'm not holding my breath!

Fab
 
Fab4ever

Do you think your V67G is darker than your B1? Also, do you really think the V67G sounds boxy?
 
DJL said:
Fab4ever

Do you think your V67G is darker than your B1? Also, do you really think the V67G sounds boxy?
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I just ordered a B1 so I cant comment on the comparison.

But I have tracked and finished a song with the V67g.
Boxy ? Not to me.
Midrangy? I did cut a db or so around 200-250hz, mainly because my partner and myself have very deep voices when naturally speaking.
The V67 really cut through the mix for me on that particular track.
I used my console's onboard pres.

Im glad I got it. but for the price of these low budget mics, I plan on getting most of them as long as I do not get some with the same character.

DJL, I did read a post where you stated that the B1 works for you on some acoustics though.

IMHO,, as cheap as they are, just get both.

Malcolm
 
DJL said:
I like the Marshall MXL603S on acoustics more, and I do like the B1 on the Fender Twin amp.
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how well does the v67 hold up on something like a Fender?
 
DJL said:
Do you think your V67G is darker than your B1? Also, do you really think the V67G sounds boxy?
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I have a pair of B1s, and a pair of V67s. I like them both. To my ear, the B1 is more neutral, while the V67 has a bit more color - and yes, it would be a slightly darker color. I wouldn't call it "dark", and much as I'd say it is "slightly darker", which is exactly what you may want for certain things, such as a voice that sounds thin.

I find myself reaching for the B1s when I want a flatter, more accurate sound with a bit more high end, especially on instruments. I reach for the V67 when I want to flatter a particular voice.

I wouldn't say either of them sound "boxy". To my ear, the V67 seems a bit more sensitive to the recording environment - they do better in a better room (but thats true of all microphones).

-lee-
 
Fab4ever said:

It seems to me with the V67, the B1 and my just-purchased MXL V93 (2003), I have a trio of cheapo Chinese large diaphram condensers that go from rather bassy to rather trebly. Fab
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What do you prefer for recording guitar, the B-1 or the V93?
Also, what style of guitar do you record?
 
Out of all the various vocal microphones I've owned/tried, the B1
so far is the "first grab" on rock style material.
Also having a strong baritone voice, this appears to be a running pattern for the B1 as the low's/mid's come across nicely.
Most of my singing is harmony based, however, the B1 really makes me want to sing good 'ol rock & roll through it!

I think the B1 is a good choice when you're shooting for an "Eric Burdon" shouter type of tone to the rock baritone voice.
For a "screecher" ala Robert Plantor Tina Turner, you might tend more towards a V67 or C1 instead.

Chris
 
I use both of these as well and they are nothing alike, when compared to the b-1 the 67 is darker, to the c-1 even more so.
best deal is to have both....
 
AcidRain said:
how well does the v67 hold up on something like a Fender?
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The V67G holds up as well as the B1... and IMO, the V67G is closer to being neutral or flatter than the B1... the B1 is a brighter colored mic than the V67G.
 
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