Sound bleed problems while miking drums

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After recording drum tracks and listening to each channel separately, there is an amazing amount of bleed through on each channel.....especially the snare. The snare buzzes every time any other drum is hit.

Is this stuff typically edited out for each drum? Is that what they do (or one of the many things I should say) during mastering to get a clean defined drum sound?
 
It's all about your final mix. Why would you need to hear one drum of a kit without hearing what happens to the rest of them when you hit said drum? The drum kit is ONE instrument. If the sum of your drum tracks plus your other tracks sounds good, you have no need to worry about what drums you can hear in what tracks. You'd probably have a worse sound if you got creative with your editing and gating and made each drum track just have one drum in it, or whatever.
 
try gating the snare....its pretty common to do it......
 
My tastes are always changing but lately I don't like gateing as much any more. The bleed is starting to sound good to me. Hell, I've been using condensors as tom mics. Although I will gate the snare if the hi hat bleed is too much.
 
track rat, do you cope ok with any cancelletion from using condensors on toms?
 
There cardiod so they behave about like a 57, they just sound a lot better. When I transfer tracks to the DAW I always look for phase issues and it's no worse than with dynamics.
 
condensors tend to give a more open sound on toms which i like

ooh, which reminds me...

got a wicked snare sound today....SM57 on top, C414 on bottom...sweeeet...
 
Personally I like the bleed, if it is in phase. If not, I simply connect a short (about 1 foot) phase reverse cable. I make these will old mic cable and xlr connectors. Solder one the the regular way, and swap the hot pin (pin2) with the cold pin (pin3) and voila instant phase reversal. These will save your life if your console came with out a phase reverse switch.
 
I agree with Whoopysnorp.
If you can get a good drum mix with what you've got it really doesn't matter what's bleeding into each track does it? I've often found that gating can make things worse. For instance; a floor tom is struck opening up the tom mic and for that instant the ride cymbal suddenly gets louder. Too much gating can make things sound un-natural. If something needs to be done to achieve a good drum mix, fine...do it. But see what your mix is like first rather than being concerned with what each track sounds like.
 
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