Sorry for this, the stupidest question ever..

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Ok, this will seem really annoying to you guys, and has more than likely been asked a million times, BUT:

I'm in "prog nu-metal" band (TOOL meets System of a down, Pink Floyd and Dream Theater in a dark alley), comprised of Guitarist (me), Drummer, Bass, and Vocalist.

What I want is some advice regarding what I'll need for a recording room..

I currently have an AMD Duron 700, with 196 MB SDRAM, a Sony 32/8/4 Burner and a Sound Blaster Live! Soundcard.

I want a decent new soundcard, and was looking at a Delta 1010T, a good mixer, and software. (I was thinking either some form of Logic, or Cakewalk)

I want the best quality sound i can get, for a fairly cheap/medium price range.

Any help is appreciated. ;):)
 
Oh, and some microphones for the drums, guitar and bass amps, and vocals...i was thinking something by Shure? Preferably multi-purpose, with minimal loss of good...ness.
 
Awright, lessee here. I own the Delta 66, and I'm quite satisfied with it. I hear the converters on the 1010 sound better than the 66's, so I'm sure it'd be a great card. For a mixer, you could go cheap and of questionable quality (Behringer), somewhat more expensive but with a solid reputation (Mackie), or somewhere in the middle (e.g. Yamaha). I did the latter--I have a Yamaha MX12/4 board (12 channels, 8 mic preamps). I got it for $450, though I saw it for $300 in a Musician's Friend closeout about a month or two ago (d'oh!). It's a solid board. I'd have no problem recommending it.

Logic or Cakewalk would both probably be fine. I use n-Track, which does pretty much everything those do for several hundred dollars cheaper (www.fasoft.com). Download demos and see what you like.

Do you know anything about your PC's motherboard, i.e., what kind of chipset does it have? VIA chipsets are known to be a problem for DAWs. Find out what kind of chipset you have and e-mail the manufacturer of the sound card you want. See if they'll tell you about compatibility issues.

Now, on to microphones. Of course you can't have too many Shure SM-57s, at about $80 apiece. They're great workhorses. They're great for micing guitar cabs and snare drums, they're pretty good on vocals, I think they're good on toms, and you could mic your kick drum with one of them (Chad Smith did on the Chili Peppers' Blood Sugar Sex Magik). I find that for bass, I get the best results mixing a line in with a mic signal (the SM57 would work well here too). I don't always use the mic track, but it's there if I want it. If I don't have the tracks to spare (such as when I'm recording my band) I just go line in, and that almost always sounds great. If you want a dedicated kick drum mic, look at something like the Audio Technica ATM25 (Terry Date uses these on kick drums--you may remember him from his work with Fishbone, White Zombie, and Soundgarden (I think)), the Shure Beta 52, the Sennheiser e602 (I have this one), or the AKG D112. These are all around $200, and they're designed to pump out a lot more low end than, say, an SM57. For drum overheads, I can recommend the MXL603s ($80 a pop). They're small diaphragm condenser mics, and they sound fine. Just make sure your board has phantom power, or they won't work.

You could use 4 drum mics and come out well--2 overheads, one kick, and one snare. You'll probably have to mess around a lot with placement to make the overheads catch the cymbals, hi-hat, and toms well--I found that an overhead above each drummer's shoulder works best. If you used SM-57s for the kick and snare and MXL603s for overheads, that'd be about $320 total. You could cut that down by using Behringer ECM8000s for overheads. They're about $35 each, and a lot of people here use them. I'm not exactly recommending them, since I've never used them (still waiting for them to come in the mail), but everybody says they work fine.
 
Thanks for the reply. Very helpful!

Unfortunately i have an Asus A7V Motherboard, that has a VIA KT133 AGPset ..

Will this make a BIG difference? When I was recording guitar straight into Cakewalk Pro Audio 9, via Line-in on my Soundblaster Live!, it didnt sound to bad, and i had no performance problems...

What kind of problems are we talking about?
 
They are talking about audio crackles.... but as whoopy said the compatibility isues are between the chipset and certain souncards. Check out the compatibility by emailing the souncard manufacture support. I have echoaudio Mia souncard and ASUS A7V-E MOBO which has the KT-133 chipset. Asus boards are recomended by echoaudio support, but there might be isues with other manufactures souncards.... I have not suffered any audio crackles with my setup and I know there are many other KT-133 users that are alive and kicking..

I'm also using the Cakewalk 9 which I find much easier to use than logic.... trust me logic is no logic at least for me...

How Is it Down under ? Are those bushes still on fire? :(
 
Riku said:
They are talking about audio crackles.... but as whoopy said the compatibility isues are between the chipset and certain souncards. Check out the compatibility by emailing the souncard manufacture support. I have echoaudio Mia souncard and ASUS A7V-E MOBO which has the KT-133 chipset. Asus boards are recomended by echoaudio support, but there might be isues with other manufactures souncards.... I have not suffered any audio crackles with my setup and I know there are many other KT-133 users that are alive and kicking..

I'm also using the Cakewalk 9 which I find much easier to use than logic.... trust me logic is no logic at least for me...

How Is it Down under ? Are those bushes still on fire? :(

Thanks again.

Yeah, half of New South Wales is ablaze, and the police recently caught some little fucks (excuse the language if this is a "swearing-free board") trying to light fires in my state. Im only 17, but i hate this kind of stuff. The wildlife, environment, not to mention people's housing/lives that get destroyed due to this kind of thing gets you so angry, when you find some little turd with a lighter...
 
Why would anybody want to start NEW fires in Australia, when there's already plenty of fire everywhere? I don't understand.

Sorry, that was in sort of bad taste. Anyway, best of luck getting your DAW set up. When I was 17 (almost four years ago) all I had to work with was four analog tracks on a reel to reel and some SM57s and 58s. And I loved every minute of it.
 
Don't worry too much about your motherboard, like was said the problems seem to be only with certain soundcards. I'm using a VIA chipset motherboard with no problems, as are lots of people. But doing some research is always a good idea.
 
Just my two cents

By the way, RME that makes some good mid to high end audio cards, they recommend the KT-133 chipset for AMD processors. Great performance and lower cost than In@#$%^&*tel PIII. Sorry, I hate Intel and Microsoft. Im thinking of switching to Linux. Anyway checkout the RME website and to to tech something or other and checkout their hardware recommendations. Kind of interesting since so many people scream Pentium, Pentium, Pentium. I say piss on 'em. Silver
 
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