sonar and cakewalk differences?

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excuse me for being so out of touch but i went to the cakewalk website today only to find the word sonar emblazoned on the home page so i checked out some info on the site and only found out that sonar can handle some type of loop processing. i've been a cakewalk user for about two years so i'd be interested to know what all the fuss is about and if this program is an upgrade of cwlk pa 9 or if it is a more consumer friendly acid type clone.
any thoughts /comments appreciated,
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alistair
 
In some senses Sonar is an upgrade of CW PA9. however the user interface has been completely redone and several new features have been added. I guess it could be called CW PA10, but the changes are extensive enough that giving it a new name is not altogether inappropriate (although I'm sure they will confuse many people by this approach).

As for specific changes, I only do audio work - no midi. So my comments are strictly in those areas related to audio. (And based only the few days I have had of being able to work with Sonar.)

1. The interface is totally redisigned. Everything is essentially now done from the track view. The track view now also contains both input and output meters for each individual track (as well as for the main output and busses). Each track also has a minimize/maximize button which can blow up the view of an individual track with a single mouse click.

The audio view is completely gone and the waves are contained in the track view. The console view remains, but I haven't found any use for it yet. Staff and piano roll views also remain - but since they are associated with midi, I won't comment.

2. In addition to the volume and pan envelopes that existed in CW9, they have added FX envelopes. This allows you to tweak the FX settings for specific portions of a song. Nice feature.

3. Something called "slip editing". This feature lets you "hide" individual portions of a track without destroying it. For example, let's say they you have a 1-2-3-4 count in to a song that you'd like to keep available, but don't want to actually hear when the song plays. You place your mouse over the left edge of track, and drag it to cover up the count in. It's now gone, and you don't hear it. Want it back? Just slide the edge of the track back to it's original position. (You can do this on sections of the track also. Make a cut in the track, and slide left or right from the cut to cover up the material you don't want to hear.

4. Sonar has also been designed to work with Windows WDM drivers. These should give you reduced latency. (Note: These need to come from you sound card manufacturer and not all manufacturers have done this yet. Beta ones are available for Delta cards, and SB Live cards have them available also. Others, you will have to check on. If they are not available you can use the drivers that you currently use, but won't get the reduced latency offered by the WDM drivers).


Lastly, a word of caution. Sonar is release 1.0 and there are some horror stories out there about problems. Crashes, blue screens of death, etc. My biggest problem was "scratches" in playback mode (sounded like a worn vinyl record). I finally resolved this by disabling my USB hub - but it took me two days to figure this out after trying tons of other things first.

However, one you get it running stable (assuming you do), the program is great. Certainly worth the $99 I paid to upgrade from CW9.

Maybe someone else can advise on some of the midi features. I know they are touting something called DXi Synths, but I'm clueless as to what they are and what they do.
 
The meters are now "world class" as they put it. They are better now, more accurate.
DXi soft synths are instruments (Direct X instruments) that you can play through a midi controller or your keyboard. It includes the Roland SOund Canvas and a few others.
My favorite new feature is the slip editing, and the way the clips can drag longer or shorter in length.
Fade ins/outs are draggable to any length right on the track view.
I've had no problems yet, but I'm merely exploring and learning and not doing much tracking. Feels stable, feels great. Looks better. I like it alot.
 
sonar=cool

check out sonar and i'am very please with this program it supports dual monitor with float points which is cool and for anyone with studiomix you will love it a lot better then pro 9 .check out the other synths their ok, took me all night to get reason and fruityloop to sync with sonar but its working.in all a great stable program love it.
 
Also...

The envelope tool rocks. I dont know if PA9 had it, but its nice nice nice.
 
PA 9 had volume and pan envelopes - but not FX envelopes. Only way to go!
 
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