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RAMI
Guest
I know NOTHING about guitars compared to a guitar player. But common sense would tell me that it's all about the wood, the constuction, the hardware, the pick-ups, the electronics, the attention to detail in manufacturing, and probably about 20 other things I can't think of.
Aside from that, I'm sure they're exactly the same.
Aside from that, I'm sure they're exactly the same.
Bristol Posse
Okey Dokey
It's kinda like the difference between:
Meat curry
Lamb vindaloo over a bed of safron rice with fresh bake naan bread
In case 2 you know what you are getting and what it'll taste like
In case 1 you have no idea, it maybe ok or you may die horribly surrounded by foul smelling liquid excrement
Meat curry
Lamb vindaloo over a bed of safron rice with fresh bake naan bread
In case 2 you know what you are getting and what it'll taste like
In case 1 you have no idea, it maybe ok or you may die horribly surrounded by foul smelling liquid excrement
DuddyGuy
No good fer nothin!
believe me.. if you were to play each and compare you would know. possibly if you just listened to someone else playing you would know.
Kingofpain678
Returned from the dead
lol.
i just cant wrap my head around the fact that a guitar made of the same would could be worth 2000$ than another guitar of the same general specs.
i get that it most likely has better pickups and tuning machines and better manufacturing and whatnot, but two thousand dollars worth?? i think the name fender must come into account somewhere...
i just cant wrap my head around the fact that a guitar made of the same would could be worth 2000$ than another guitar of the same general specs.
i get that it most likely has better pickups and tuning machines and better manufacturing and whatnot, but two thousand dollars worth?? i think the name fender must come into account somewhere...
kcearl
I see deaf people
all I know is that if try out a basic squier and find one with a nice neck..rip its innards out and replace its hardware you get a squier as good sounding as an base mim Strat for less $$...but no matter what you do you will never have a squier that sounds like a Hot Rod '57 Strat...
there's only so much of a quality jump you can make with gear
there's only so much of a quality jump you can make with gear
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Pariah
New member
I agree that the Fender name has something to do with the high price. They say its the 1957 strat, but its not a whole lot different than my 10 year old American Standard Strat. The Dimarzio pick up on the bridge is excellant, and the guitar does have some very good hardware. There is a big difference in the playability and sound (especially when recording) between a genuine Strat and a Knock-off like the cheaper one in the advertisment, which is a package geared towards beginners. That being said, the 1957 model Strat is still way over-priced.
Supercreep
Lizard People
Happy to.
One is a complete piece of shit, the other is an overpriced USA Fender.
Kingofpain678
Returned from the dead
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
it's the thin-skin nitrocellulose finish.
ez_willis
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no but you'll have a totally playable guitar and a few grand in your pocket.
kcearl
I see deaf people
slowmotion
New member
Everything is the difference. Yes they have similar shapes and are probably built on similar machines. But that's where it ends.
The $80 guitar will have poor quality everything - right down to the wiring inside, the chinzy components, the metal used in the hardware, the cheap magnets in the pickups, the fret wire, everything. The grade of wood is also poor in cheap guitars (even if they claim to be "solid" wood). The fretwork, the fitting, the factory setup etc etc etc. You can mitigate all of these factors by swapping out everything and correcting cheap fret jobs etc, but by then you are pretty much making a guitar yourself (and it will cost a fair bit in hardware, tools and time).
The $2000 guitar will have better everything to start with. The price difference comes from time spent in the factory, the skill of the workers there etc. The components inside aren't really the difference (okay maybe a few hundred bucks in manufacturer dollars). Proper work takes time. Time costs a lot.
Consider this: The final price includes all the manufacturing cost (parts and labour) AND markup for all suppliers at a profit. Working backwards from that, the $80 guitar needed to be made for significantly less, and everyone had to get paid, machines had to get paid for, all that stuff, it's actually quite amazing.
I've fixed many many a cheap guitar in my time and yes you can totally get a workhorse from a cheap guitar, some good parts, some fretwork and a good setup - but when you play good high end instruments the difference is very clear. The one thing that I think makes this difference apparent is the grade of wood (considering it's the only thing you can't swap out).
A bit off topic, you can get a great, cheap guitar, completely customized, through Warmoth for cheapish (depending on your wallet and tastes) and you'll get far superior instrument to the USA Fenders (which don't get really really good until you start spending $4k hehe).
Just my 2c!
(for the record, I consider "playable" very different to "good"... I bet you could get the $80 guitar to play and feel great - it just won't sound much chop)
Dogbreath
Im an ex-spurt
one's black
one's red.
Red costs more.
duh.
one's red.
Red costs more.
duh.
Kingofpain678
Returned from the dead
one's black
one's red.
Red costs more.
duh.
yeah its a scientific fact that things that are painted red go faster. the extra 1920$ goes making it red/really fast.
why didnt i see it before??
noisewreck
New member
It's like asking why does a Ferrari F430 cost more than a Toyota MR-2.
You can also ask why does a Steinway Grand cost close to $100,000 while you can pick up a Kawai for around $15,000.
There is something to be said about great workmanship, attention to detail, hand assembly/building compared to robotized factory conveyer belt
You can also ask why does a Steinway Grand cost close to $100,000 while you can pick up a Kawai for around $15,000.
There is something to be said about great workmanship, attention to detail, hand assembly/building compared to robotized factory conveyer belt
kcearl
I see deaf people
kawai's are better too
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TNWRITER
New member
How about this one?
This will make you wonder all over again
Signature Series
It's all relative........ I guess.
This will make you wonder all over again
Signature Series
It's all relative........ I guess.
noisewreck
New member
kcearl
I see deaf people
$25,000 for a les paul...geez I wonder how it would sound through my Pod
