Snare-Drum Effect

[six]

I'm pretty sure you all once heard that effect mostly applied only in a special part of a song and it goes like this:
Instead of a decent "tack" the snare sounds like "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhACK" - and it's defenitely no roll
Is it what some guys call "reversed reverb"? and how do you do this?

 

[Kelly Holdridge]

Reverse your track, or sample thereof. Add reverb, and then reverse the composite of the two. Computer is the best way to do this, although a tape multi was the original way of doing it. If you're recording digital, you're S.O.L.

Any delay effects (echo, reverb, delay) can be reversed in this way.

 

[Tapehead]

This is also a common effect on lots of effect processors--called reverse gate.

 

[LongWaveStudio]

I haven't used it for ages but i'm sure my Alesis Quadraverb does reverse reverb? or maybe it's a lexicon rack? can't remember now, but i used it on a guitar track ages ago.there is a rack out there which does it!

 

[england]

The Quadraverb does it!

 

[sonusman]

Right, many effect boxes have a reverse reverb effect, but, they still do not put the reverb BEFORE the snare hit....

If you have like two ADAT's, you could advance one of the decks however many milliseconds or seconds your reverb is, use a reverse reverb effect, and print it to tape. When you put the deck back to regular time, the reverse reverb effect would be before the snare hit.

Clever aren't I? I think I will try it on a song I am going to be mixing here soon. We wanted a reverse reverb on the snare, but, digital tape does not allow you to reverse the tape. I was always wondering how I could get the effect. Now I figured it out.

Never say I don't share production secrets boys!

Ed

 

[Kelly Holdridge]

Cool. Didn't think of that. The sampled wave is still forward though, right? Could be good or bad... Taste

 

[sonusman]

No. If you use a reverse reverb, all you are doing is taking the effect and moving it to the front of the snare hit like it should be. The effect processor still reverses the incoming signal to create the effect. Although, it may still not be as good as doing it the old fashion way, but who knows? I will when I try it....

Damn, the more I think of it, the more I see that it could work just fine. Would take a little doing to get the deck offset just right, but, would be worth it if it sounds good eh?

Ed

 

[Kelly Holdridge]

I've got an itch in my brain that suspects it won't be the same. Are we talking about the same circuit that guitar players use for their "reverse reverb?" I think that's more of a gate triggering a fade-in (like a fancy amplification circuit). Realtime processing of reverse signals is impossible, as the length of the sample is indeterminate until the sample releases the gate.

Are we talking about the same idea, Ed?

 

[sonusman]

Yeah, you are right. But, we could make out own new cool effect now!

Ed