Should I or should I not buy a new Marshal TSL122 100 watt combo amp 2x12"???

[pisces7378]

I have already posted a general post about this amp and who likes it and who does not, and the response was so overwelming that I lost track of who likes Marshalls and who hates them etc...

I want a HUGE guitar sound. I want vintage sounding country folk type stuff, and then step on a foot switch and blow peoples' hair back with a fat huge guitar explosion. I do NOT want this stingy piercing Eddie Van who-ever, new rock, 5150 over electric sounding distortion.

I want an amp that will be more than loud enough to be heard over drums, bass, another guitar, and vocals. I have had problems in the past with a Peavey 2x12" Stereo Chorus amp. my friend had a more powerful Fender 4x12" w/ head deal that just blew me away.

But I want to be able to record. I am not so worried about neighbors, so i can crank the thing as loud as I want to. There is a practice space rental in town (www.nuci.org) where I can rent a "sound proof" practice space room for $7/ hour. So I can just haul the kit into there and record on into the wee wee hours. I use a POD for songwritting, but I want an organic HUGE SOUND for recording, hence the mic'ed amp rather than DI'ing.

I want at least three channels on an amp switchable via a footswitch.
I want to have seperate EQ for each channel.
I want to have effects loops also controllable from the foot-switch so that i do not have to dirty up and weaken my signal chain with cheap shit stomp boxes. Instead just patch in high-end effects processors.

Now this TSL122 100 Watt has all that but for all I know there are 10,000 amps that all have these features. price is not a real problem. I am budgeting $1,500 for this 2x12" combo. So vote for what you think I should do. My ears will ultimately be the deciding factor... but you guys are real cool and you input means a lot to me.

So thanks for your help!

 

[LocusLarsen]

You want an vintage country sound were you can step on a switch that will blow people away.

That Marshall is $1600.



A ProCo Rat Distortion pedal w/ ............

2 Fender Deluxe Reverbs at $800 each. Because stereo kicks ass. Put the Rat on one so that the other one is clean all the time. Mad tone. Only 22 watts, but two is very loud.

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Super Reverb ($1200). 45 watts. I know you want a hundred watt, but your drummer will be pissed as fuck when you bring this to jam.


The Fender is the best sound for country and will turn rock in no time at all.

Another option would be to get a Deluxe Reverb and a used Marshall JCM 800 or 900 so that you can run both clean, then kick on the Marshalls OD channel to rock out.

Effect loops are completly over-rated. If you want three channels, then also get a Ibanez Tube Screemer to cover what would be the Third Channel on that Marshall.

 

[LocusLarsen]

Oh yes........did I mention VIBRATO?



MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................

 

[Major Tom]

Unless you are playing coliseums or huge outdoor gigs, I would recommend no higher than a 50 watt - they are PLENTY loud, and will achieve that sweet full volume singing tone at a slightly more manageable volume level, especially if you are mic'd into a PA. The Deluxe mentioned by LL at 22 watts, mic'd will let you actually operate the amp at or close to "full bore" in a real world application without causing any bleeding from the ears of the audience. If you can't hear yourself over the drummer, get a new one (drummer, that is) I use a Fender Hot Rod DeVille 4x10 (60 watt), and play mostly clean to edge-of-distortion, and it is too loud for most places...

 

[Henri Devill]

I'm not a fan of the newer Marshalls{800's were the last great Marsh amps}...If you want to get the sound that you describe..Then Mesa Boggie mark 3{Sim class} heads with a 4/12 Marshall cab..This rig will get you there and back..Or a Fender ProSonic this is cool amp that not too many players know about..I belive they were discontiued and they went for about 700.00 new so used who knows...Only prob. is they tend to be a little fragile..but a great amp none the less!The newer Marshalls sound a little too chippy{IC's} not enough tube/Transformer sag.. also not enough "air" around the sound..But if you dig the Marshall that you mentioned, go for it your the one whos gotta make it work!Good luck



Don

 

[pisces7378]

Thanks for voting guys.

 

[flash2ace]

get a cornford amp they just tottaly kick bootey and i am saving all my money and selling everything i own to get one. they are valve amps and the tone is incredible, www.cornfordamps.com go see for yourself. they get that exact tone you are after. have fun shopping but one thing to keep in mind marshalls do one thing well and that is about it if you want versatility then get a cornford.
p.s. anybody wanna buy a wife like i said im selling everything.

 

[Toker41]

Forget the Marshall. They do 1 thing well. Go with Boogie...they do everything great! You should check out a Mesa Boogie studio preamp. It's a vintage piece and can be found on e-bay for around $350. Then check out a Boogie 50/50 power amp. It will do everything you discribed. If you don't like the idea of vintage then check out a Mesa Boogie dual rectafier. Marhsall is great if you just want 1 sound. If you really want to channel switch, check out a Boogie. If you find the Boogie isn't you cup of tea, try a Fender CyberTwin. The CyberTwin does it all, and it's a 2x12 combo. It blows away anything Line6 has out, and it's cheaper.